# BST refresher or revalidation question **URL:** \ **Category:** Professional Mariner Forum\ **Created:** [April 4, 2017, 12:24pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/bst-refresher-or-revalidation-question/44530 "2017-04-04T12:24:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ddedaug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc348/32.png) [@ddedaug](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ddedaug)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 1:38pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/bst-refresher-or-revalidation-question/44530/21 "2017-04-07T13:38:51Z")
> [@jdcavo](#): > > Yes. The things for PSC that can’t be done on a vessel are also covered in the BT revalidation. Is this true? No. ---
**Author:** ![Fraqrat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/fraqrat/32/1961_2.png) [@Fraqrat](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Fraqrat)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 2:57pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/bst-refresher-or-revalidation-question/44530/23 "2017-04-07T14:57:43Z")
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**Author:** ![tugsailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@tugsailor](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tugsailor)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2017, 2:11am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/bst-refresher-or-revalidation-question/44530/24 "2017-04-08T02:11:06Z")
$300 is a fair price. It seems like most of the profiteering schools (even the ones supported by my tax dollars) want $500 or more. That is really unreasonable when the entire 5 day course is $850. ---
**Author:** ![jdcavo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jdcavo/32/108_2.png) [@jdcavo](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/jdcavo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2017, 12:35pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/bst-refresher-or-revalidation-question/44530/25 "2017-04-08T12:35:48Z")
> [@tugsailor](#): > > $300 is a fair price. > > It seems like most of the profiteering schools (even the ones supported by my tax dollars) want $500 or more. That is really unreasonable when the entire 5 day course is $850. It’s probably not as simple as a per diem comparison. Perhaps the biggest component of the overhead of a full BT course is the fire field and pool and the equipment used there, all of which are also needed for a 2-day revalidation course. ---
**Author:** ![seadug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecc23a/32.png) [@seadug](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/seadug)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2017, 1:52pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/bst-refresher-or-revalidation-question/44530/26 "2017-04-08T13:52:12Z")
Excellent point the 850$ school I looked at needs to reserve a day at an off campus Fire Academy and reserve a day at another location for the pool. ---
**Author:** ![CaptGreg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/db5fbb/32.png) [@CaptGreg](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/CaptGreg)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 10:56am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/bst-refresher-or-revalidation-question/44530/27 "2018-04-21T10:56:53Z")
Hello. I am in process of applying for my 7th issue MMC (100T Masters NC) and have had STCW e dorsements. I will no longer be doing international work. Am I able to drop my STCW endorsement and still renew my MMC? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![BoatRoach](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/boatroach/32/3342_2.png) [@BoatRoach](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/BoatRoach)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/bst-refresher-or-revalidation-question/44530/28 "2018-04-21T12:49:39Z")
I considered the same thing once before I decided to pursue the path to upgrade, but to my understanding as I was educated on no too long ago on this forum; being that your endorsement is under 200grt and you’re on domestic/near coastal routes, STCW is not necessary. I don’t know what your newest issue would say exactly but Im pretty sure your national endorsements wouldn’t be touched ( pending renewal on other endorsements and what’s necessary for you to maintain your 100t ). ---
**Author:** ![jdcavo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jdcavo/32/108_2.png) [@jdcavo](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/jdcavo)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 12:55pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/bst-refresher-or-revalidation-question/44530/29 "2018-04-21T12:55:08Z")
> [@CaptGreg](#): > > I am in process of applying for my 7th issue MMC (100T Masters NC) and have had STCW e dorsements. I will no longer be doing international work. Am I able to drop my STCW endorsement and still renew my MMC? You can let the STCW lapse and renew the license. Just make sure you are clear on this to NMC, otherwise it might delay the processing of the renewal, if they are not certain you want to let STCW lapse, they may put you in "awaiting information: and tell you what you need to renew STCW. ---
**Author:** ![CaptGreg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/db5fbb/32.png) [@CaptGreg](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/CaptGreg)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 1:28pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/bst-refresher-or-revalidation-question/44530/30 "2018-04-21T13:28:47Z")
Thanks. I appreciate that. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Segundo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@El\_Segundo](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/El_Segundo)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 1:47pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/bst-refresher-or-revalidation-question/44530/31 "2018-04-21T13:47:15Z")
Along the lines of allowing STCW to lapse; what if a mariner has placed their 3rd Mate Unlimited with all the “normal” endorsements (AB, OS, STCW AFF, BT, PISC) in continuity status and they are in the process of activating it; can they only activate the National section, i.e. what is needed to work on a US waters ferry? [Previous page](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/bst-refresher-or-revalidation-question/44530.md?page=1)