# British CEC **URL:** \ **Category:** Maritime Employment\ **Created:** [June 1, 2014, 1:54pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/british-cec/12766 "2014-06-01T13:54:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9dc877/32.png) [@jano](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/jano)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2014, 1:54pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/british-cec/12766/1 "2014-06-01T13:54:06Z")
I would like to know list of all countries which have agreement with UK and UK provide them CEC (certificate of equivalent competency). THNKS - - - Updated - - - ok but where, i tried MCA, and no success on their web, ---
**Author:** ![Steamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Steamer](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Steamer)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2014, 2:51pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/british-cec/12766/2 "2014-06-01T14:51:02Z")
It’s called the “White List” ---
**Author:** ![jano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9dc877/32.png) [@jano](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/jano)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2014, 3:10am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/british-cec/12766/3 "2014-06-02T03:10:57Z")
thnks, but I am not sure about this white list. For e.g. Slovak republic is on white IMO list and in european EMSA assotiation but UK replied that for Slovak COC they don´t provide CEC ---
**Author:** ![Steamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Steamer](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Steamer)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2014, 3:46am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/british-cec/12766/4 "2014-06-02T03:46:29Z")
Good grief, who is going to do the application for you? [http://www.dft.gov.uk/mca/mcga07-home/workingatsea/mcga-trainingandcert/mcga-cec/dqs-st-stc-cecinfo.htm](http://www.dft.gov.uk/mca/mcga07-home/workingatsea/mcga-trainingandcert/mcga-cec/dqs-st-stc-cecinfo.htm) ---
**Author:** ![jdcavo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jdcavo/32/108_2.png) [@jdcavo](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/jdcavo)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2014, 4:07am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/british-cec/12766/5 "2014-06-02T04:07:41Z")
[QUOTE=Steamer;138413]It’s called the “White List”[/QUOTE]Not really. See STCW Regulation I/10. Being on the white list isn’t sufficient. In order to recognize (endorse) another country’s certificates, the country endorsing the certificates must make its own determination that the country that issued the certificates is giving full effect to STCW. ---
**Author:** ![Steamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Steamer](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Steamer)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2014, 4:18am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/british-cec/12766/6 "2014-06-02T04:18:46Z")
[QUOTE=jdcavo;138429]Not really. [/QUOTE] See post #4. The UK MCA publishes its own white list of national certificates acceptable for issuance of a CeC and the conditions (if any) that might apply. That list is based on the IMO STCW White List. ---
**Author:** ![z-drive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c37758/32.png) [@z-drive](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/z-drive)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2014, 5:56am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/british-cec/12766/7 "2014-06-02T05:56:21Z")
They seem to make it pretty simple…right on that link there is this and a table to support it: > The following table is a list of countries whose CoCs and GMDSS certificates that are accepted by the MCA. Please refer to this table before making your application. [TABLE=“align: center”] Certificates issuing administration GMDSS Accepted? Important Notes [TR=“bgcolor: #CCCCFF”] Australia Yes We accept certificates issued from the Australian Maritime Safety Authority (AMSA). State issued certificates are not accepted Evidence of English is not required. [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #A6ACEB”] Belgium Yes [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #CCCCFF”] Bulgaria Yes [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #A6ACEB”] Canada Yes Evidence of English is not required. [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #CCCCFF”] China Yes [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #A6ACEB”] Croatia Yes Please submit evidence of sea service if you are an engineer on a steam ship. [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #CCCCFF”] Czech Republic Yes [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #A6ACEB”] Denmark Yes [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #CCCCFF”] Estonia Yes [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #A6ACEB”] Faroe Islands No [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #CCCCFF”] Finland Yes [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #A6ACEB”] France Yes [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #CCCCFF”] Germany Yes [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #A6ACEB”] Greece Yes [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #CCCCFF”] Hong Kong No Evidence of English is not required [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #A6ACEB”] Hungary Yes Motorships Only [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #CCCCFF”] Iceland Yes [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #A6ACEB”] India Yes Evidence of English is not required. [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #CCCCFF”] Iran No Evidence of English is not required. [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #A6ACEB”] Ireland Yes Evidence of English is not required. [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #CCCCFF”] Italy Yes [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #A6ACEB”] Jamaica Yes Evidence of English is not required. [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #CCCCFF”] Korea, Republic of No [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #A6ACEB”] Latvia Yes [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #CCCCFF”] Lithuania Yes [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #A6ACEB”] Malaysia Yes Evidence of English is not required. [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #CCCCFF”] Malta Yes Evidence of English is not required. [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #A6ACEB”] Mynamar No Evidence of English is not required. [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #CCCCFF”] Netherlands Yes [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #A6ACEB”] New Zealand Yes Evidence of English is not required. [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #CCCCFF”] Norway Yes [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #A6ACEB”] Pakistan No Evidence of English is not required. [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #CCCCFF”] Philippines Yes [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #A6ACEB”] Poland Yes If you require a dangerous cargo endorsement, please submit your Polish tanker permission page. [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #CCCCFF”] Portugal Yes [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #A6ACEB”] Romania Yes Please submit evidence of sea service if you are an engineer on a steam ship. [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #CCCCFF”] Russia Yes [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #A6ACEB”] Serbia & Montenagro No [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #CCCCFF”] Singapore Yes Evidence of English is not required. [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #A6ACEB”] Slovenia Yes [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #CCCCFF”] South Africa Yes Evidence of English is not required. Please submit evidence of sea service if you are an engineer on a steam ship. [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #A6ACEB”] Spain Yes [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #CCCCFF”] Sri Lanka No Evidence of English is not required. [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #A6ACEB”] Sweden Yes [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #CCCCFF”] Ukraine Yes [/TR] [TR=“bgcolor: #A6ACEB”] USA No Holders of USCG certification with limitations may be required to sit an oral examination of competency. Please contact the CEC team for further details. [/TR] [/TABLE] ---
**Author:** ![Steamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Steamer](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Steamer)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2014, 6:05am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/british-cec/12766/8 "2014-06-02T06:05:37Z")
[QUOTE=z-drive;138434]They seem to make it pretty simple…[/QUOTE] Not simple enough I guess. Even if the national maritime authority is not on the list, many flag state maritime authorities will consider the application on its merits. A UK CeC is only needed if the applicant plans to work on a UK flag vessel, otherwise it is the flag state that determines availability of an endorsement of the underlying national certificate. It really is not that complicated but one would hope that an officer would know what to look for and how to find it. After all, knowing how to look up regs is part of the job description. ---
**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2014, 12:55am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/british-cec/12766/9 "2014-06-03T00:55:30Z")
Indonesia and Brazil didnt make the list