# Brexit is near **URL:** \ **Category:** Scuttlebutt\ **Created:** [September 7, 2020, 11:43am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/brexit-is-near/56630 "2020-09-07T11:43:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![tengineer1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/858c86/32.png) [@tengineer1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tengineer1)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/brexit-is-near/56630/23 "2020-09-09T18:50:45Z")
Who can nominate? These **nominations will** be submitted by members of national assemblies, governments, and international courts of law; university chancellors, professors of social science, history, philosophy, law and theology; leaders of **peace** research institutes and institutes of foreign affairs; previous **Nobel Peace Prize** Laureates; As in the USA other countries have members of their national assemblies who are nut cases. The thing that no one will ever see is the final vote. Probably for the best. ---
**Author:** ![spork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@spork](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/spork)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/brexit-is-near/56630/24 "2020-09-09T18:56:22Z")
It’s looked like Trump was getting somewhere in terms of better relations with North Korea, but haven’t things more or less gone back to square one and the relationship kind of soured again? Wasn’t he also involved with that UAE-Israel agreement recently and something to do with a Serbia-Kosovo agreement. Some other international relationships have soured a little bit more like with Iran and China. There must be someone more deserving of it than Trump, perhaps Bill Gates? He’s done a lot of good stuff with his foundation. ---
**Author:** ![freighterman1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/freighterman1/32/11176_2.png) [@freighterman1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/freighterman1)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 8:40pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/brexit-is-near/56630/25 "2020-09-09T20:40:41Z")
> [@spork](#): > > but haven’t things more or less gone back to square one and the relationship kind of soured again? Didn’t the sun rise again this morning? 🙂 > [@spork](#): > > There must be someone more deserving of it than Trump, perhaps Bill Gates? I’m with you on that suggestion. I wouldn’t be surprised if Bill got one one day. (And he can use the $1 million dollar prize to buy new napkin rings for his villa on the Moon). ---
**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 2:22am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/brexit-is-near/56630/26 "2020-09-10T02:22:13Z")
If you count the bombs dropped and wars started under his command, I think he leaves all other presidents behind as a peace maker? I think he looks at war with a cost to benefit mentality and knows they are loss makers. Better to stay at home and spend on your fleet just in case than burn through cash in overseas operations. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 1:10pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/brexit-is-near/56630/27 "2020-09-10T13:10:42Z")
Loss makers for the Government and Taxpayers. Profit machines for those who supply the weapons and services to the military. ---
**Author:** ![betweenthebuoys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/65b543/32.png) [@betweenthebuoys](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/betweenthebuoys)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/brexit-is-near/56630/28 "2020-09-11T20:35:08Z")
Holy Nobel Peace Prize! > **[Trump nominated a second time for Nobel Peace Prize](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/516022-trump-nominated-a-second-time-for-nobel-peace-prize)** > > A member of the Swedish Parliament on Friday nominated President Trump and the governments of Kosovo and Serbia for the 2021 Nobel Peace Prize over economic cooperation and tra ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 9:23pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/brexit-is-near/56630/29 "2020-09-11T21:23:32Z")
You obviously don’t have a monopoly on elected morons. ---
**Author:** ![Lee\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Lee\_Shore](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Lee_Shore)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/brexit-is-near/56630/30 "2020-09-11T22:45:52Z")
No more than Danish election morons. ---
**Author:** ![Steamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Steamer](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Steamer)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2020, 11:31am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/brexit-is-near/56630/31 "2020-09-12T11:31:35Z")
Best idea yet … > **[End the Nobel Peace Prize](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/09/end-nobel-peace-prize/616300/)** > > The Trump nomination shows that peace had its chance, and blew it. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2020, 11:43am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/brexit-is-near/56630/32 "2020-09-12T11:43:57Z")
No Dane would dream of proposing Trump for the Noble Prize in anything after he tried to buy Greenland. (They have forgotten how they got it though) ---
**Author:** ![Dutchie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/dutchie/32/170_2.png) [@Dutchie](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Dutchie)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2020, 2:48pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/brexit-is-near/56630/33 "2020-09-12T14:48:15Z")
> **[Trump wanted to trade ‘dirty and poor’ Puerto Rico for Greenland, says...](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-trade-puerto-rico-greenland-dirty-poor-a9679346.html)** > > Some 3,000 people were killed when Hurricane Maria devastated Puerto Rico in 2017 Buy Greenland? Trump has had second thoughts and wants to swap it now with Puerto Rico. They are American citizens becoming Danes and are pissed off about such a deal but they should be happy because they are better of as Danes. Higher wages, free healthcare, good pension, free tuition, family support for lower incomes, child support and all that. ---
**Author:** ![Hogsnort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba8739/32.png) [@Hogsnort](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Hogsnort)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2020, 8:00pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/brexit-is-near/56630/34 "2020-09-12T20:00:32Z")
I agree with what you say but the problem that smaller Pacific Nations face is you can not enforce the provisions of your own EEZ except at the point of a gun. Without help from Australia and New Zealand some Pacific Island nations would have their fishing grounds plundered. ---
**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 12:13am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/brexit-is-near/56630/35 "2020-09-13T00:13:02Z")
> **[UK trade deal with Japan 'could be agreed by September'](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8571607/UK-trade-deal-Japan-agreed-September.html)** > > Talks with Tokyo started on June 8 and have been ongoing since then, with a 'significant breakthrough' taking place yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 12:16am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/brexit-is-near/56630/36 "2020-09-13T00:16:12Z")
> **[UK approach to joining the CPTPP trade agreement](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/uk-approach-to-joining-the-cptpp-trade-agreement)** > > An update on the UK's approach to joining the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP). ---
**Author:** ![Sand\_Pebble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Sand\_Pebble](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Sand_Pebble)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 2:08am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/brexit-is-near/56630/37 "2020-09-13T02:08:46Z")
> [@Dutchie](#): > > Buy Greenland? Trump has had second thoughts and wants to swap it now with Puerto Rico. If Holland isn’t interested in buying or trading for Puerto Rico how much do you think you guys would accept just to take it off our hands? ---
**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 2:15am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/brexit-is-near/56630/38 "2020-09-13T02:15:40Z")
would be a Belt and Road initiative for the drug pipeline? ---
**Author:** ![Dutchie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/dutchie/32/170_2.png) [@Dutchie](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Dutchie)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 2:37pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/brexit-is-near/56630/39 "2020-09-13T14:37:15Z")
I know that PR is a bottomless pit. You throw in any amount of money and it magically disappears. And we have already the Dutch Caribean islands like Aruba, Bonaire, Curaçao, Sint Maarten, Saba and Sint Eustatius we don’t need more, they all are costing us money, a constant drain on our resources. ![IMG_6378](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/8/f/8f919bdb945e57200b568bcd71a604345711861c.png) This is a map of the situation in 1674 of the then Dutch Empire. We have fallen deeply since then. Ours was the whole of Indonesia, Formosa (Taiwan), Ceylon (Sri Lanka), areas on the mainland of India, the Cape of Good Hope area where vegetables and livestock were grown to feed the ships on their way either to the Far East or on the return trip. A halfway larder you could say. Further Surinam and the Guyanas in South America. And not to forget we purchased the island of Manhattan for the equivalent of $24 worth of beads and trinkets. Even adjusted for inflation, this is probably the real Greatest Trade Deal Ever. We also had a trading post on the island of Dejima in Japan from 1641 to 1854. We were the only foreigners allowed to trade with the Japanese. ![IMG_6377.PNG](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/9/f/9f65482120b1ab686b2a4d55403f5eb48c32402c.jpeg) The list is long apart from Cape of Hope area there were other African colonies: Ghana (gold mines) Angola (Luanda, Sonyo and Cabinda) Arguin Goree (in Senegal) Moçambique (Delagoa Bay) Sao Tomé Indian Ocean: Mauritius Middle East: Mesopotamia (Iraq, Al Basrah) Indian Subcontinent: Bengal (Bangladesh) Burma (Myanmar) (Mrohaung (Arakan), Siriangh, Syriam, Ava, Martaban) Ceylon India (Suratte, Malabar, Coromandel) Asia-Pacific: Dutch East Indies(Indonesia) Malacca Molukken or Maluku Islands Taiwan (Tayowan) Tonkin/Annam (Vietnam) (Tonkin, Hoi An) Jemen, Al Mukha (Mocca) We were top of the list. Yes, we were awesome also in those days. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/brexit-is-near/56630/40 "2020-09-13T15:46:20Z")
> [@Dutchie](#): > > We also had a trading post on the island of Dejima in Japan from 1641 to 1854. We were the only foreigners allowed to trade with the Japanese. Part of Dejima in Nagasaki has been preserved and can be visited. I visited in 2012, both Dejimas and Glover Garden that commemorate the British presents in Nagasaki after the Dutch. Here is the brief history of the Dutch settlement; ![DSCN4661](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/2/2/2263452a5c0665e91c23dd9fdbfa6a3a0f902337.jpeg) Some houses and even the Dejima Tree that was transplanted from Jakarta is still there: ![DSCN4657](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/e/6/e6a4e6e60099d8dfbc4d79592995bf90c7ee11e9.jpeg) Part of the original wall around the settlement is still standing. ![DSCN4655](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/7/0/70f1303305fae06b957cca3f42ce4faba99e0920.jpeg) PS\> Like everywhere else in Asia, the Portuguese was there first. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 4:23pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/brexit-is-near/56630/41 "2020-09-13T16:23:55Z")
Back to Brexit and it’s many twists and turns: > **[Founder of 'pro-Brexit' think tank buys EU passport via Malta](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/hard-brexit-eu-passport-buy-malta-christopher-chandler-single-market-customs-union-a8185336.html?utm_content=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3y3TC2Igu5UJ-DW0P7mmRXT86xLN6Yc_pd3YSpIEhCv8R9jPhmeSs3yjg#Echobox=1599849432)** > > Billionaire founder of think tank that advocates leaving single market obtains right to work anywhere in Europe ---
**Author:** ![betweenthebuoys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/65b543/32.png) [@betweenthebuoys](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/betweenthebuoys)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 7:01pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/brexit-is-near/56630/42 "2020-09-15T19:01:44Z")
Historic Peace Accords: > > “They are choosing a future in which Arabs and Israels, Muslims, Jews, and Christians can live together, pray together, and dream together side by side in harmony, community and peace.” -DJT Incredible moment… Just incredible. What a 3.5 year journey. Stunning, strategic and exceptionally well crafted diplomacy. Start with the economics, not the conflict… then promote the goal of prosperity, and with it PEACE. #TrumpDoctrine [Previous page](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/brexit-is-near/56630.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/brexit-is-near/56630.md?page=3)