# Are you professional enough to post on "gCaptain"? **URL:** \ **Category:** Professional Mariner Forum\ **Created:** [July 29, 2017, 1:23pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/are-you-professional-enough-to-post-on-gcaptain/45616 "2017-07-29T13:23:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![jbtam99](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jbtam99/32/65499_2.png) [@jbtam99](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/jbtam99)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 11:22pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/are-you-professional-enough-to-post-on-gcaptain/45616/209 "2017-08-06T23:22:20Z")
Amen! They are there to save **_THE CREW’S LIVES_** if the ship is sinking, not some idiot that can’t understand why the big tanker can’t just miracle his ass aboard! ---
**Author:** ![cchick001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@cchick001](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cchick001)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 11:22pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/are-you-professional-enough-to-post-on-gcaptain/45616/210 "2017-08-06T23:22:32Z")
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**Author:** ![cchick001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@cchick001](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cchick001)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 11:23pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/are-you-professional-enough-to-post-on-gcaptain/45616/211 "2017-08-06T23:23:15Z")
[http://www.working-the-sails.com/rigging\_a\_dinghy.html](http://www.working-the-sails.com/rigging_a_dinghy.html) ---
**Author:** ![cchick001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@cchick001](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cchick001)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 11:23pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/are-you-professional-enough-to-post-on-gcaptain/45616/212 "2017-08-06T23:23:58Z")
> **[Survival at Sea: How to Stay Afloat in Water?](https://www.marineinsight.com/marine-safety/survival-at-sea-how-to-stay-afloat-in-water/)** > > Staying afloat in sea water during emergency situation, before a rescue team reaches you, requires a lot of hard work and patience. Find out how to stay afloat in sea water in the right manner in the article. ---
**Author:** ![cchick001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@cchick001](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cchick001)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 11:24pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/are-you-professional-enough-to-post-on-gcaptain/45616/213 "2017-08-06T23:24:43Z")
> **[Marine turns TROUSERS into a life-jacket to save himself from drowning](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3295157/How-save-drowning-Amazing-video-shows-marine-turning-TROUSERS-life-jacket.html)** > > The American marine brought the ends of his two trouser legs together and tied a knot in them before putting them around his neck and filling them up with air. ---
**Author:** ![Ctony](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ctony/32/189_2.png) [@Ctony](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Ctony)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 11:27pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/are-you-professional-enough-to-post-on-gcaptain/45616/214 "2017-08-06T23:27:12Z")
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**Author:** ![cchick001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@cchick001](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cchick001)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 11:28pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/are-you-professional-enough-to-post-on-gcaptain/45616/215 "2017-08-06T23:28:35Z")
You Sir, are a Scholar and a Gentleman. ---
**Author:** ![cchick001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@cchick001](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cchick001)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 11:30pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/are-you-professional-enough-to-post-on-gcaptain/45616/216 "2017-08-06T23:30:50Z")
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**Author:** ![DougSabbag](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/dougsabbag/32/1263_2.png) [@DougSabbag](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DougSabbag)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 11:30pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/are-you-professional-enough-to-post-on-gcaptain/45616/217 "2017-08-06T23:30:50Z")
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**Author:** ![cchick001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@cchick001](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cchick001)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 11:32pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/are-you-professional-enough-to-post-on-gcaptain/45616/218 "2017-08-06T23:32:32Z")
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**Author:** ![cchick001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@cchick001](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cchick001)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 11:33pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/are-you-professional-enough-to-post-on-gcaptain/45616/219 "2017-08-06T23:33:07Z")
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**Author:** ![cchick001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@cchick001](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cchick001)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 11:34pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/are-you-professional-enough-to-post-on-gcaptain/45616/220 "2017-08-06T23:34:11Z")
[http://www.shipsim.com/products/shipsimulatorextremes](http://www.shipsim.com/products/shipsimulatorextremes) ---
**Author:** ![DougSabbag](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/dougsabbag/32/1263_2.png) [@DougSabbag](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DougSabbag)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 11:39pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/are-you-professional-enough-to-post-on-gcaptain/45616/221 "2017-08-06T23:39:23Z")
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**Author:** ![cchick001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@cchick001](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cchick001)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 11:40pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/are-you-professional-enough-to-post-on-gcaptain/45616/222 "2017-08-06T23:40:34Z")
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**Author:** ![Capt\_Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/capt_phoenix/32/281_2.png) [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 11:42pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/are-you-professional-enough-to-post-on-gcaptain/45616/224 "2017-08-06T23:42:31Z")
> [@DougSabbag](#): > > you don’t pull a SAILBOAT alongside a 900 foot tanker without losing the spars against the hull of the tanker Then you can stay onboard and die if you care more about your boat staying intact than you staying alive. ---
**Author:** ![cchick001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@cchick001](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cchick001)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 11:44pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/are-you-professional-enough-to-post-on-gcaptain/45616/225 "2017-08-06T23:44:23Z")
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**Author:** ![Ctony](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ctony/32/189_2.png) [@Ctony](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Ctony)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 11:44pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/are-you-professional-enough-to-post-on-gcaptain/45616/226 "2017-08-06T23:44:45Z")
> [@DougSabbag](#): > > I’ve probably been on the water longer than you have - 50 + years so far and counting. And all you have to show for it is a complete and utter lack of common sense. ---
**Author:** ![cchick001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@cchick001](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cchick001)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 11:45pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/are-you-professional-enough-to-post-on-gcaptain/45616/227 "2017-08-06T23:45:22Z")
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**Author:** ![Capt\_Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/capt_phoenix/32/281_2.png) [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 11:45pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/are-you-professional-enough-to-post-on-gcaptain/45616/228 "2017-08-06T23:45:25Z")
> [@DougSabbag](#): > > A LIFEBOAT is to SAVE LIVES Quit posting because every time you do you show your ignorance. A lifeboat’s ONLY purpose is to abandon ship. A lifeboat is **NOT** a rescue boat. ---
**Author:** ![captjacksparrow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/captjacksparrow/32/290_2.png) [@captjacksparrow](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/captjacksparrow)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 11:45pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/are-you-professional-enough-to-post-on-gcaptain/45616/229 "2017-08-06T23:45:36Z")
> [@DougSabbag](#): > > But sharing the concept that there ARE better ways to get someone out of the water from a 900 foot tanker is not a mistake. I’ll be the first to agree that there’s a whole lot of room for improvement regarding MOB recovery for commercial vessels, whether it’s a member of the crew or someone else. But those are issues mostly of the vessel’s equipment, or the lack thereof. The IMO, the USCG, and the other national marine safety agencies have never pushed much, if at all, on this particular issue. They should and it’s an embarrassment that they haven’t. But that has nothing to do with the crews of the merchant ships / boats themselves. We are, in general, poorly equipped and not well prepared personnel-wise for responding to the circumstances you were in. That’s just a fact. Search and rescue is an acquired skill, requiring task-specific equipment and training, that must be regularity exercised to remain effective. It also entails elevated risk that can’t usually be accurately assessed, That just doesn’t jive with the worldwide vampire squid-economy we have to operate in. If the equipment isn’t legally mandated it will probably never be seen, and the USCG’s approval system is stifling for new innovative equipment to break into the marketplace. The design & construction of ships and boats needn’t take into account the possible need for reasonably-safe and effective MOB recovery, so they generally don’t. I wish things were different, but they’re not. It’s just not important enough to enough people, or the right people. Could it be better? Of course! Things like the Jason’s Cradle… > **[Jason's Cradle — MOB Systems, Scramble Net, Rescue Stretcher](https://www.jasonscradle.co.uk/)** > > MOB Systems, Scramble Net, Rescue Stretcher, Scoop, Stretcher, Water Rescue Equipment. Jason's Cradle, UK & Worldwide Distribution …have been around for quite a while. But they’re not required and therefore uncommon at best. Same for the Personal Retriever Disk by Life Safer… > **[The Personal Retriever Disk by Life Safer](http://www.life-safer.com)** > > Personal retrieving disk for water safety It’s a far superior choice as a throwable rescue device compared to regular life rings, which are typically marginal at best and often dangerous when they’re not simply ineffective. There are other items in existence that are better than the regulatory minimums, but few companies will ever go much above those minimums. For things to change for the better would require that the bar be raised. There is great resistance to that happening, and always has been. All safety regulations, in all forms of human endeavor, are written in many gallons of blood. You should just be happy that none of you and your wife’s got used in this case. If you want to bark up a tree where it might have the remote possibility to do a little good, go pester your Congress Critters about this. It probably won’t change anything but at least there’s a chance. [Previous page](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/are-you-professional-enough-to-post-on-gcaptain/45616.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/are-you-professional-enough-to-post-on-gcaptain/45616.md?page=12)