# AB inland license

**URL:** <https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ab-inland-license/48013>\
**Category:** Professional Mariner Forum\
**Created:** [May 5, 2018, 11:31pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ab-inland-license/48013 "2018-05-05T23:31:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![CookingatSea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/cookingatsea/32/3489_2.png) [@CookingatSea](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/CookingatSea)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 10:39pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ab-inland-license/48013/43 "2018-05-06T22:39:40Z")

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The name of the thread is AB inland license. I was just trying to help. I’m not sure I’m intelligent enough to read this thread correctly so instead of trying to be helpful, I’ll go finish mowing my lawn.

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**Author:** ![DirtyCoast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/dirtycoast/32/9387_2.png) [@DirtyCoast](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DirtyCoast)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 10:40pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ab-inland-license/48013/44 "2018-05-06T22:40:37Z")

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That’s what I’m looking for. How many members of AWO have sea time? I might say 0.5 on average. How much does the president of AWO who has no sea time make…600k

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**Author:** ![DirtyCoast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/dirtycoast/32/9387_2.png) [@DirtyCoast](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DirtyCoast)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 10:41pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ab-inland-license/48013/45 "2018-05-06T22:41:11Z")

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You are exactly the persons opinion I want.

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**Author:** ![DirtyCoast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/dirtycoast/32/9387_2.png) [@DirtyCoast](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DirtyCoast)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ab-inland-license/48013/46 "2018-05-06T22:42:05Z")

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I included you because I want your help.

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**Author:** ![Capt\_Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/capt_phoenix/32/281_2.png) [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ab-inland-license/48013/47 "2018-05-06T22:46:28Z")

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> [@CookingatSea](#):
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> The name of the thread is AB inland license.

The title is misleading. For experienced guys there’s no reason they couldn’t get AB Special, maybe even require one on each inland tug.

What the OP is talking about is a new deckhand training class that takes place with a formal curriculum so everyone is learning to do things the same (right?) way. That minimizes injury and keeps the new guys from slowing work down to much while they’re getting the hang of things.

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**Author:** ![Capt\_Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/capt_phoenix/32/281_2.png) [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 10:47pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ab-inland-license/48013/48 "2018-05-06T22:47:51Z")

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> [@DirtyCoast](#):
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> How many members of AWO have sea time?

AWO members are companies. I’m not sure any corporation has sea ever earned sea time.

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**Author:** ![DirtyCoast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/dirtycoast/32/9387_2.png) [@DirtyCoast](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DirtyCoast)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 10:48pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ab-inland-license/48013/49 "2018-05-06T22:48:12Z")

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That is exactly it and my question to you @Capt_Phoenix would this be another tax on the industry.

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**Author:** ![DirtyCoast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/dirtycoast/32/9387_2.png) [@DirtyCoast](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DirtyCoast)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 10:49pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ab-inland-license/48013/50 "2018-05-06T22:49:16Z")

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So that means it’s acceptable for people who haven’t ever done it to make the rules… no fucking way

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**Author:** ![Capt\_Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/capt_phoenix/32/281_2.png) [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 10:49pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ab-inland-license/48013/51 "2018-05-06T22:49:26Z")

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> [@DirtyCoast](#):
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> would this be another tax on the industry.

Which? Requiring inland boats to carry at least one AB? Or requiring the classroom training of new deckhands?

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**Author:** ![CookingatSea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/cookingatsea/32/3489_2.png) [@CookingatSea](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/CookingatSea)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 10:49pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ab-inland-license/48013/52 "2018-05-06T22:49:28Z")

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Thank you for explaining it. The rest of the industry needs that also. My lawn is finished.

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**Author:** ![DirtyCoast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/dirtycoast/32/9387_2.png) [@DirtyCoast](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DirtyCoast)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ab-inland-license/48013/53 "2018-05-06T22:50:25Z")

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Both.

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**Author:** ![Capt\_Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/capt_phoenix/32/281_2.png) [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 10:52pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ab-inland-license/48013/54 "2018-05-06T22:52:26Z")

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> [@DirtyCoast](#):
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> So that means it’s acceptable for people who haven’t ever done it to make the rules… no fucking way

It’s an organization made up of maritime companies. There are plenty of people that have sea time involved in everything. Plus, they don’t really make “rules”, per see.

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**Author:** ![DirtyCoast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/dirtycoast/32/9387_2.png) [@DirtyCoast](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DirtyCoast)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 10:52pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ab-inland-license/48013/55 "2018-05-06T22:52:27Z")

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An AB license, same rules but for inland. Yes or no? It doesn’t exist now and it should.

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**Author:** ![Capt\_Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/capt_phoenix/32/281_2.png) [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 10:53pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ab-inland-license/48013/56 "2018-05-06T22:53:21Z")

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> [@DirtyCoast](#):
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> An AB license, same rules but for inland. Yes or no? It doesn’t exist now and it should.

It does exist, it just isn’t required on any inland boats.

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**Author:** ![DirtyCoast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/dirtycoast/32/9387_2.png) [@DirtyCoast](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DirtyCoast)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ab-inland-license/48013/57 "2018-05-06T22:54:19Z")

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No it doesnt, that’s my point…an AB license is offshore. Why do the guys who work the hardest make the least?

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**Author:** ![DirtyCoast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/dirtycoast/32/9387_2.png) [@DirtyCoast](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DirtyCoast)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 10:55pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ab-inland-license/48013/58 "2018-05-06T22:55:28Z")

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> [@Capt\_Phoenix](#):
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> It’s an organization made up of maritime companies. There are plenty of people that have sea time involved in everything. Plus, they don’t really make “rules”, per see

fuck them, they don’t have a day of sea time and they make the rules.

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**Author:** ![DirtyCoast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/dirtycoast/32/9387_2.png) [@DirtyCoast](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DirtyCoast)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 10:56pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ab-inland-license/48013/59 "2018-05-06T22:56:16Z")

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Awo is crooked, of you want to learn more follow Rocky Marciano on LinkedIn.

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**Author:** ![Capt\_Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/capt_phoenix/32/281_2.png) [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 10:56pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ab-inland-license/48013/60 "2018-05-06T22:56:34Z")

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> [@DirtyCoast](#):
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> fuck them, they don’t have a day of sea time and they make the rules.

**They** don’t make the rules, the membership does.

They also don’t really make “rules” either.

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**Author:** ![DirtyCoast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/dirtycoast/32/9387_2.png) [@DirtyCoast](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DirtyCoast)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 10:57pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ab-inland-license/48013/61 "2018-05-06T22:57:00Z")

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It DOESN’T matter! Why are they making the fucking rules!

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**Author:** ![Capt\_Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/capt_phoenix/32/281_2.png) [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 10:58pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ab-inland-license/48013/62 "2018-05-06T22:58:33Z")

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> [@DirtyCoast](#):
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> Why are they making the fucking rules!

What rules do you think this mysterious “they” has made?

Why **shouldn’t** Kirby, Marquette, etc make the rules?

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