# 100T Dpo

**URL:** <https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/100t-dpo/59117>\
**Category:** Professional Mariner Forum\
**Created:** [April 16, 2021, 8:25am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/100t-dpo/59117 "2021-04-16T08:25:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Menizzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Menizzi](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Menizzi)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 8:25am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/100t-dpo/59117/1 "2021-04-16T08:25:18Z")

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I searched the forums and found one good post from 2014.

> [@DP Class for the 100 Ton Master?](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/dp-class-for-the-100-ton-master/13498):
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> So, how does one go about finding a facility that will offer DPO when you only have a 100 ton Near Coastal? I’ve been working on a DP supply vessel for 2yrs as an AB and wish I could have started the classes back then. I would like to get the ball rolling, but finding out that the listed prerequisites require a larger ticket?? Suggestions and ideas? Thanks

Is that information still good? More or less you can get a dpo license but it is only good upto the license you have and sea time needs to be from a dpo boat as well.

I have no idea were I need to be looking to research this.

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 10:43am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/100t-dpo/59117/2 "2021-04-16T10:43:55Z")

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> [@Menizzi](#):
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> I have no idea were I need to be looking to research this.

Minimum Requirements for starting the DP Scheme

Following the 2010 Manila amendments to the STCW Convention and Code, The Nautical Institute has implemented the following criteria for entry into the DP Operators training scheme:

The minimum qualification is set at STCW Regulation II/1 ‐ II/2 ‐ II/3 Deck, Regulation III/1 – III /2 – III/3 – III/6

Engine and Regulation III/6 for ETOs

| STCW | DEFINITION |
| --- | --- |
| II/1 Deck | Officers in charge of a navigational watch on ships of 500 GRT or more. |
| II/2 Deck | Master or chief mate on ships of 3,000 GRT or more. |
| II/3 Deck | Officers in charge of a navigational watch and Masters on ships of less than 500 GRT. |
| III/1 Engine | Officers in charge of an engineering watch in a manned engine‐room or designated duty engineers in a periodically unmanned engine-room. |
| III/2 Engine | Chief engineer officers and second engineer officers on ships powered by main propulsion machinery of 3,000kW propulsion power or more. |
| III/3 Engine | Chief engineer officers and second engineer officers on ships powered by main propulsion machinery of between 750kW and 3,000kW propulsion power. |
| III/6 ETO | Electro-Technical Officer |

Alternative appropriate Marine Vocational Qualifications (MVQs) will be considered on a case by case basis. The NI defines an MVQ as _a non-STCW Certificate of Competency issued by a white list Maritime Administration for use in the administration’s local waters only._

> **[Minimum Requirements for starting the DP Scheme](https://nialexisplatform.kayako.com/en-us/article/47-minimum-requirements-for-starting-the-dp-scheme)**
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> Following the 2010 Manila amendments to the STCW Convention and Code,
> The Nautical Institute has imp...

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**Author:** ![Menizzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Menizzi](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Menizzi)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 11:18am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/100t-dpo/59117/3 "2021-04-16T11:18:22Z")

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Thank you. It looks like I could take mate 500T and qualify as well. If I understand correctly.

I am on a boat with ass internet so thank you again

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 11:42am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/100t-dpo/59117/4 "2021-04-16T11:42:15Z")

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Reach out to the schools that offer DP classes, they may have better answers.

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**Author:** ![mbull](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/mbull/32/8005_2.png) [@mbull](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/mbull)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 2:16pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/100t-dpo/59117/5 "2021-04-16T14:16:36Z")

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Completing Basic Training with 100NC will Qualify you for II/3 - OICNW less than 500 tons International.

Marc

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 2:48pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/100t-dpo/59117/6 "2021-04-16T14:48:51Z")

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> [@mbull](#):
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> Completing Basic Training with 100NC will Qualify you for II/3 - OICNW less than 500 tons International.

No, it won’t. See [46 CFR 11.321](https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/retrieveECFR?gp=&SID=a186f373c4c4c901af613e6e681eba32&mc=true&n=sp46.1.11.c&r=SUBPART&ty=HTML#se46.1.11_1321) and [NVIC 13-14](https://www.dco.uscg.mil/Portals/9/DCO%20Documents/5p/5ps/NVIC/2014/NVIC-13-14-Incl-CH-3.pdf?ver=2020-05-12-120630-743).

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 3:17pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/100t-dpo/59117/7 "2021-04-16T15:17:38Z")

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A 100 ton master can get a DP certificate but you have to be employed as the company has to write a letter stating the need for you to acquire the certificate.

If you don’t currently work for a company that has a DPO vessel that allows you to get appropriate time you are wasting your time. In appropriate time I mean it is classed and in the NI’s system. Plenty of vessels with DP systems in the GOM that are not classed.

The easiest way to tell if it is classed is there a FEMA and updates from trials done every year onboard.

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2021, 12:04am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/100t-dpo/59117/8 "2021-04-17T00:04:54Z")

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It’s amazing that so many people believe that bullshit. There is a lot more to “having STCW” than just taking BT

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2021, 12:04pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/100t-dpo/59117/9 "2021-04-17T12:04:41Z")

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> [@Menizzi](#):
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> I have no idea were I need to be looking to research this.

Another route to explore is the OSVDPA:  
[Become a DPO (I have no DP experience)](https://www.osvdpa.org/page/BeginTheScheme)

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2021, 1:35pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/100t-dpo/59117/10 "2021-04-17T13:35:10Z")

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> [@tugsailor](#):
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> It’s amazing that so many people believe that bullshit. There is a lot more to “having STCW” than just taking BT

There’s actually a small nugget of plausibility to this. See [46 CFR 11.301(g)](https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=c7fab6a5e0360cec18bb2bb308638542&mc=true&node=se46.1.11_1301&rgn=div8):  
_(g) Notwithstanding §11.901 of this part, each mariner found qualified to hold any of the following national officer endorsements will also be entitled to hold an STCW endorsement corresponding to the service or other limitations of the license or officer endorsements on the MMC. The vessels concerned are not subject to further obligation under STCW because of their special operating conditions as small vessels engaged in domestic, near-coastal voyages. [List of vessel types follows]_

See also [46 CFR 15.1101(a)(2)](https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=25613c0c66a7e6931aff930811bfa4d1&mc=true&node=se46.1.15_11101&rgn=div8).

Anyone getting an STCW endorsement under 46 CFR 11.301(g) will have a limitation that is only valid for near-coastal domestic voyages, i.e. it’s not valid where STCW is required. As far as DPO, very few, if any, of the listed vessel types have DP.

For an STCW endorsement that’s valid where an STCW endorsement is required, see the regulation and policy I cited [above](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/100t-dpo/59117/6).

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**Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 3:21am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/100t-dpo/59117/11 "2021-04-21T03:21:55Z")

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FMEA

I’m a stickler for the details considering for the last few years I’ve been writing and performing the trials to prove the validity of the documents.

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**Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 6:42am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/100t-dpo/59117/12 "2021-04-21T06:42:49Z")

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I’d say the best way to find out is to check the class certificate - for ABS it would need to be DPS1 or higher. There are vessels out there with an unclassed DP system that have a FMEA in place. In fact some older ships may even be in the NI database - having lost their class notation at some point - you may be required by NI to prove the vessel was classed while you were on it so beware.

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**Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 6:50am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/100t-dpo/59117/13 "2021-04-21T06:50:44Z")

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Just out of curiosity, but how big would a 100GT vessel be? The smallest DP classed ship I know of would be a ~100ft multi-cat and they are still in the order of 300GT.

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**Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 2:29pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/100t-dpo/59117/14 "2021-04-21T14:29:47Z")

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100 GRT in the US is usually about 200 GT.

However, the tonnage system in the US is a regulatory game full of exceptions and loopholes. There are 200’ OSVs and 150’ tugs that are only 99 GRT. US tonnage is a scam, not a meaningful system measurement.

When Multicats are eventually built in the US, they will all be under 99 GRT.
