Of course, I was Navy, not a merchant so that means I don't know anything about what we did down there. And yes I already mentioned the USS Greenville. Notice how I don't come on here and tell you guys how to drive Merchant Marine vessels or claim the institution of the US Merchant Marine is deeply flawed and falling part because you occassionally have accidents out on the deep blue sea. I never noticed this "anti-Navy" aspect on this site until recently. I thought gCaptain's article about the accident was reasonable and fair but some of you guys on here, sheesh. Anybody who dares to say anything positive about the US Navy on here..."clearly you have never been to sea", etc.
Since I'm being respectful of the Merchant Mariners on here, I would appreciate some reciprocation of that. Respect doesn't mean we always agree.
No, both ships made mistakes there. They both had radar and visual. Both could have avoided that accident. Which is what gCaptain himself said, and I agree. Have you seen me attack gCaptain because he said the USS Fitzgerald is partially to blame? No, you have not.
Now, you guys who want to say "the US Navy is fundamentally incompetent as an organization because Naval ships occasionally are involved in accidents", I'm sorry man, we're not on the same page. It is nothing personal, but I was in the US Navy and I know they are not failing as an organization.If I said that about the US Merchant Marine, you would be offended and would defend the institution of the US Merchant Marine, would you not?
Yes, that US Navy ship made a mistake here. No, it doesn't mean the Navy is a failure.
I agree. I can't imagine any mariner not agreeing with that statement. Still, see above.
Sure, man. Every civilian in San Diego knew when SSBN-728 was going to arrive. The boat that goes out of port and then goes underwater and doesn't come back up until they're coming into another port. Everybody knows exactly where that boat goes. Next you're going to tell me that everybody in Los Angeles knows when a stealth bomber is going to pass overhead at night, right? That lady isn't my gf. she's literally a friend from college, a platonic friend.
Well, you don't have the information I'm protecting and I'm not going to give it to you. I've never seen it published, and I couldn't acknowledge it if I did since I am not allowed to discuss it (just that single sentence is all I'm allowed to say).