U.S. Ready for South China Sea Confrontation


#1

sure they are! guffaw! snort!

[B]U.S. Ready for South China Sea Confrontation[/B]

By MarEx 2016-12-14 00:42:55

The United States is ready to confront China should it continue its overreaching maritime claims in the South China Sea, the head of the U.S. Pacific fleet said on Wednesday, comments that threaten to escalate tensions between the two global rivals.

China claims most of the resource-rich South China Sea through which about $5 trillion in ship-borne trade passes every year. Neighbors Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam also have claims.

The United States has called on China to respect the findings of arbitration court in The Hague earlier this year which invalidated its vast territorial claims in the strategic waterway.

But Beijing continues to act in an “aggressive” manner, to which the United States stands ready to respond, Admiral Harry Harris, head of the U.S. Pacific Command, said in a speech at the Lowy Institute in Sydney.

“We will not allow a shared domain to be closed down unilaterally no matter how many bases are built on artificial features in the South China Sea,” he said. “We will cooperate when we can but we will be ready to confront when we must.”

The comments threaten to stoke tensions between the United States and China, already heightened by President-elect Donald Trump’s decision to accept a telephone call from Taiwan’s president on December 2 that prompted a diplomatic protest from Beijing.

Asked about Harris’s remarks, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said the situation in the South China Sea was currently stable, thanks to the hard work of China and others in the region.

“We hope the United States can abide by its promises on not taking sides on the sovereignty dispute in the South China Sea, respect the efforts of countries in the region to maintain peace and stability in the South China Sea region and do more to promote peace and stability there,” he told a daily news briefing.

The United States estimates Beijing has added more than 3,200 acres (1,300 hectares) of land on seven features in the South China Sea over the past three years, building runways, ports, aircraft hangars and communications equipment.

In response, the United States has conducted a series of freedom-of-navigation operations in the South China Sea, the latest of which came in October.

The patrols have angered Beijing, with a senior Chinese official in July warning the practice may end in “disaster”.

Harris said it was a decision for the Australian government whether the U.S. ally should undertake its own freedom-of-navigation operations, but said the United States would continue with the practice.

Harris said Australia could “walk and chew gum” at the same time and was not being asked to make a choice between the U.S. and China.

Australia has not yet flown or sailed within 12 nautical miles of Chinese-claimed islands in the South China Sea.

“The U.S. fought its first war following our independence to ensure freedom of navigation,” said Harris. “This is an enduring principle and one of the reasons our forces stand ready to fight tonight.”

how much of US debt does China own today? it is $1.3 trillion in fact! how fast would the dollar plunge the moment they say their central bank is selling the bonds off cheap? if they told the world that their US dollar holdings would be drastically reduced? the value of the dollar would evaporate overnight! although China’s economy would suffer if they did it would survive while ours would die very painfully. China already has won their war with us as has Russia and Saudi Arabia and on and on… We are gonners, it is only how fast will our demise be? That is why the DAUNTLESS is my escape module ready to flee when the sudden collapse unfolds (might well be much sooner than later once a certain loose cannon takes up residence at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, Washingtoon, District of Cowards)


#2

Don’t give up the ship, sir.


#3

China is already selling US Treasury Bonds to prop up the Yuan: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/15/china-cedes-top-us-creditor-crown-to-japan-as-yuan-struggles.html

What happened to the oft repeated statement that China is manipulating their currency to keep it low?
Oh, that is just another lie propagated by Trump.

Will they sell the US down the drain?? No not likely, unless they are provoked to do so by stupid US policy.

Economists say they expect China to continue to reduce its holdings of U.S. government debt, considered as the most liquid dollar assets, to help defend the yuan, but a big sell-off looks unlikely.


#4

Reefs in the South China Sea, before and after: http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-...s-in-the-south


#5

They also use them (UST) as collateral for infrastructure projects in places like Africa. China has been reducing its holdings (they aren’t the only ones either) in UST an even offshoring them to accounts in places like Belgium in event they are sanctioned through SWIFT. Every bilateral trade agreement the Chinese (and Russians) have signed in the last few years has stipulated that the Dollar would be used in settling transactions, the yuan is now included in the basket of currencies at the IMF and China has established the AIIB to foster economic development all signal a more assertive China in the years to come. It also means the first ya challenge to American economic hegemony since we established it post WWII. I’m not sure that most Americans understand the implications of that.

Should be interesting as I think all of this North Korea stuff is linked to the S. China Sea situation.


#6

If China sank the dollar they would be in trouble themselves. Who do you think buys most of their junk?


#7

It would effect us a lot more than them. Our reserve currency status is the reason we can run such high deficits without much consequence. They also have a different paradigm when it comes to controlling their people.

Either way global trade is slowly decoupling from the USD even though it will take decades to do.


#8

Asia answer for half of China’s export trade, USA take 18.3%, while EU at 18.5% is slightly ahead: http://www.worldstopexports.com/chinas-top-import-partners/

So yes, if you count individual countries, US is the biggest market for Chinese goods, which is no longer only “junk” by the way: http://www.worldstopexports.com/chinas-top-10-exports/


#9

Almost nothing of quality is produced in China.


#10

The fact is the Chinese will make what ever you want to whatever quality you want.

Most of the luxury branded goods are made there.


#11

Realy? My Dell computer, wife’s iPhone and Vizio tv all seem to work pretty well. The MacGregor hatch covers for the last newbuild project I was involved in were made in China. The last time I was in China I was picked up in a Buick and the taxis I usually used were VW’s. Both made in china.

Yes, cheap junk is made there but so are quality goods. The point is, you get what you pay for.


#12

Next time you are near a Container Terminal anywhere, incl. in the US, have a look at those big shiny new Gantry Cranes and you will most likely find the letters ZMPC somewhere prominently displayed: https://www.porttechnology.org/news/port_of_virginia_bags_four_quay_cranes

The have several vessels,who deliver the cranes around the world.
BTW; Fully manned with Chinese seafarers.

Here is but one of them:


#13

Yes you do, in China like anywhere else.

If you build a ship, rig or anything of that nature, you also get only as good as your supervision.
If you leave ANY shipyard to “just get on with it”, the quality of workmanship and even material will be mediocre at best.

I could name examples, both in China and elsewhere, but I will refrain from that for “fear” of being deemed “Anti-American”.


#14

Sorry, I was specifically thinking of consumer products sold in America. Some electrical items from China are of decent quality, rarely are clothing items from China of decent quality.


#15

Don’t buy them then. BUY AMERICAN!!! and pay more for the quality.
(Or for the “feel-good” patriotic experience??)


#16

That you can put at the feet of the likes of Walmart. In the end you get what you pay for.

In the eighties I was in the Gulf of St Lawrence loading for Europe.

Wanted some thick ‘lumberjack’ style shirts as winter was closing in.

Got them at the local store - excellent quality, Canadian Brand - ‘Made in China’

The Chinese have been decades in building to where they at now, it is only the scale of things and the range that has brought it to prominence.


#18

I do buy quality made in: America, Canada, Latin America, Japan, and Europe. I very rarely set foot in Walmart or the other purveyors of Chinese crap that does not last more than a few minutes. The best long term value for the dollar is never the cheapest initial price.


#19

How does this thing have proper line-of-sight for navigation from the bridge?


#20

Sinking their number 1 market seems counter productive. An economic war would hurt them too.


#21

That’s true.

I’ve also heard stories from businessmen that tried producing stuff in China and no matter what they did they couldn’t get the quality they wanted so they moved production elsewhere. Now I can’t remember what type of product it was…