Simply staggering...the US Navee doubles down on a failed hand


#1

I can’t believe this and pray John McCain shoots this idiotic move down in flames!

[B]Pentagon Opts to Upgrade Littoral Combat Ship Design[/B]

The new small surface combatant (SSC) ships will be based on an upgraded variant of the existing littoral combat ships (LCS). Hagel has directed the Navy’s buy back to 52 ships, including a mix of both LSCs and SSCs, up from 32.

by Andrea Shalal

WASHINGTON, Dec 11 (Reuters) – U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel on Thursday approved the U.S. Navy’s plan to meet its requirement for 52 small warships by upgrading the coastal warships designed by Lockheed Martin Corp and Australia’s Austal, instead of starting from scratch with a more costly new design.

Hagel said he accepted the Navy’s recommendation to make the current ship designs more lethal and survivable by adding an array of missiles, radars and other equipment.

“The Navy’s new proposal, like the LCS, will continue to have its critics, but considering the context of our broader naval battle force and the current strategic and fiscal environment, I believe it represents our best and most cost effective option,” Hagel said in a statement. Hagel’s Full Statement HERE.

Hagel ordered a major review of the Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) program in February after numerous reports raised concerns that the current ships were not well suited for combat.

Navy acquisition chief Sean Stackley told reporters the planned upgrades to the existing ships would add $60 million to $75 million, or less than 20 percent, to the current cost of the ships, pegged at $360 million in the latest signed contracts.

Stackley said officials would hammer out details about the upgrades in coming months and planned to finalize a strategy for buying the new ships in time for the fiscal 2017 budget.

He said the Navy would continue buying ships from both companies to ensure continued competition in the program.

The Navy already has 20 LCS ships under contract, plus options for four more. Stackley said the next eight ships would still be in the current configuration, although certain upgrades could be added, if possible.

The final 20 ships will carry the new equipment, with the first of those ships to be procured in fiscal 2019, he said.

Hagel said the final mix of LCS ships and new small surface combatants (SSC) would be determined by procurement costs, fleet requirements and the Navy’s overall budget.

He said the new ships would add improved air defense radars, air defense decoys, a new electronic warfare system, an over-the-horizon anti-ship missile, a towed array sonar, torpedo defenses and more armor.

Stackley said some items would be removed from the ship to make room for the added equipment without adding significant weight, essentially allowing each ship to carry two different equipment packages, instead of just one. It was not yet clear how large of a crew would be needed, he said. (Reporting by Andrea Shalal; Editing by Steve Orlofsky)

I fear I am about to have a fit of apoplexy! ARRGGGHHHH!


#2

“[It’s] our best and most cost effective option.”

Hagel said so, it must be true.


#3

[QUOTE=LI_Domer;149693]"[It’s] our best and most cost effective option."

Hagel said so, it must be true.[/QUOTE]

EMMEFFING influence of lobbyists and huge corporations in our Gooberment! WE’RE DOOMED!

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#4

As soon as I saw this article I thought " C.Captain is gonna have an aneurysm when he reads this," Glad to see your still alive.


#5

Glad? I was hoping this would be the one that finished him off!


#6

The entertainment value of this forum would suffer with his demise.


#7

[QUOTE=Shady McTaylor;149769]The entertainment value of this forum would suffer with his demise.[/QUOTE]

aw shucks…ya didn’t need to say that but since you did let me say…

it’s my privilege to entertain all you unwashed troops…


#8

I think a bigger debacle is the pretty unpopular F-35 program. At least the LCS’s float and you can always strap more guns too them. From the talk about the F-35 it seems like it doesn’t do anything particularly well…


#9

Our Navy would be better served using the National Security Cutter design


#10

Sooo the LCS’s are being reclassified as Frigates now that the last OHP deployment in history is about to take place. Thoughts on this?


#11

[QUOTE=PaddyWest2012;152085]Sooo the LCS’s are being reclassified as Frigates now that the last OHP deployment in history is about to take place. Thoughts on this?[/QUOTE]

A turd by another other name would stink as much?


#12

Navy keeps buying dumb LCS’s knowing they are useless and lack capability yet the Coast Guard cant get just one new Icebreaker to keep an eye on the Arctic that Russia will control soon…


#13

[QUOTE=commtuna;152094]Navy keeps buying dumb LCS’s knowing they are useless and lack capability yet the Coast Guard cant get just one new Icebreaker to keep an eye on the Arctic that Russia will control soon…[/QUOTE]

oh so true sir…so very true


#14

The lobbyists for our American military industrial complex are slapping each other on the back somewhere!


#15

[QUOTE=salt’n steel;152163]The lobbyists for our American military industrial complex are slapping each other on the back somewhere![/QUOTE]

they are damned good at their jobs and get paid accordingly…


#16

Does anybody know when the last time a Navy surface warfare ship was involved in combat? As far as I can tell, it seems their main purpose is to protect carriers; something that a littoral combat ship is unsuited for.

Also, does anybody know where these LCSs are supposed to be used for combat?


#17

[QUOTE=JohnG;152181]Does anybody know when the last time a Navy surface warfare ship was involved in combat? As far as I can tell, it seems their main purpose is to protect carriers; something that a littoral combat ship is unsuited for.

Also, does anybody know where these LCSs are supposed to be used for combat?[/QUOTE]

I do not believe LCSs are intended to be part of a carrier battle group but were supposed to take the place of the FFG-7 class which where themselves intended to take the place of destroyer escorts. Littorial Combat is by its very name, fighting in coastal waters.

as far as I can tell our sooperdooper leaders of the grandiose mighty US Navee are simply lost souls who no clue as to where they would fight or even how?


#18

I still like G captains idea to buy up all the unwanted crew boats and supply boats. Then add paint, guns, missiles, marines, and an engine overhaul. You could have the nastiest mud boats on the planet ready to deploy within 6 months.

Also caterpillar and EMD would be employing a lot of people for all those engines.


#19

They are launch platforms for missiles all the time.


#20

[QUOTE=DeckApe;152207]They are launch platforms for missiles all the time.[/QUOTE]

not some stoopid weapons platform but in ship to ship or ship to air combat where the ship actually is facing fire!