Refuting Ombugge's left wing rhetoric

I don’t know, the numbers just appears on the right hand side of my screen.

Most of the “elitist” countries would prefer the US keep their nose out of their business. After all no one elected the US as world policeman. But meanwhile they’ll let the USA piss away billions of dollars “defending” them. They see the USA’s meddling in other countries affairs as imperialism which is true. However most of those other countries have been around much longer the the USA and know the futility of imperialism and the end result so they are patient. As the British, Dutch, Spanish, French and others know from experience, imperialism is the last stage of uncontrolled capitalism before its inevitable collapse. History does not repeat but it does rhyme.

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And I agree with them… Withdraw from the UN and use that large sum of money that is currently being wasted to begin to fix our many problems here. When (not if) Putin and/or China begin their inevitable expansion into these countries who have enjoyed the past 70 years of “achievements” on the back of the American taxpayer, then we will see how far they have really achieved.

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I have not been to Hell in Norway but I’ve been to Hell in Grand Cayman which got its name because of its forbidding looking black rock formations
PS They have a post office there so you can send postcards stamped from Hell.

I’m not sure if there are still a Post Office in Hell, as most postal services are now handled through Supermarkets or other shops.

Hell Railway station has been closed, but the buildings are still standing and attract a lot of attention, especially from English speaking tourists:

BTW; NSB (Norwegion Railroad Authority) are offering the old Station Master’s residence in the station building for rent if anybody should wants to secure their place in Hell:
https://banenoreiendom.no/hell-stasjon1

Look out for “their people”? You mean Somalians?

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Yes Somalians too, if they are legal residents, or approved refugees.
Why should nationality (or religion) make a difference?

What’s that? Legal status should have a bearing on what benefits a person should be eligible for? I could’ve SWORN you’ve been the first one to throw around terms like racist, xenophobic, etc. when that EXACT same concept has been discussed on this forum in the past… Please do explain the difference…

Please show where I have said “racist” or “xenophobic” about anything to do with welfare for legal residents, or refugees anywhere??

I have stated that the way Norway and other countries are treating Asylum seekers, by keeping them in suspense for years, boarder on racism and is caused by xenophobia. That I stand by.

That I find racism and xenophobia stupid and based on lack of knowledge about foreign peoples and cultures, no matter where in the world it raises it’s ugly head, is no secret.

As you may know, the only terrorists attack there have been in Norway since WWII was caused by a full blooded Norwegian with just such stupid ideas.

You are probably believing that everything is centered around things American and USA?
I can assure you, it does not in my book.

What about the people without paperwork? They get nothing, sent home or what?

Many are either leaving voluntarily, or being transported back to their country of origin with police escort. What I dislike is that the political bosses have set “quotas” for the bureaucrats to fill every year, which result in a rush to find any little excuse to send people out, even unaccompanied children, to countries that they have never seen, or is not regarded as safe for repatriation by UNHCR.

Another situation is where somebody have been refused asylum but their home country refuse to accept them, or Norway deem it unsafe to send them back because they may face prosecution, or even execution if they are returned.
In such cases they are kept in open reception facilities and given support, but are not allowed to work, even as volunteers.

Many just disappears and move to other European countries, trying their luck there. Many end up sleeping rough in Paris and other major cities, with little or no hope of getting asylum.

This is a major problem for Europe and breeding ground for radicalism and recruitment to criminal gangs etc. It is a ticking bomb that need to be addressed, but xenophobia and paranoia makes it almost impossible to do so.

And the show goes on in that playpen called Washington DC:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ebauer/2018/03/17/no-andrew-mccabe-isnt-losing-his-pension/#4a337e03236d

How silly can it get??

Yeah the politization of the FBI is definitely pretty silly. Another thing ‘accomplished’ over the last 70 years.

The silliest thing is that he keeps a pension at all. The frickin HEAD of the FBI leaks stuff to the press for purely political purposes and then “isn’t forthcoming enough” (aka, lies) about it when confronted??? That should be the civilian equivalent of a dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all benefits. That should apply to Republicans and Democrats (and yes Bugge, all races, genders, religions, and sexual orientations as well)

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It can get quite a bit more silly. Like having a foreigner explain all the faults of a country and system he knows very little about.

America is big. Each of our states is like a country in euroland. Even with the recent forced “diversity” of the euro, the countries are still fairly homogeneous compared to the USA. Direct comparisons are foolish and a waste of time.

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You men Washington Post is FOREIGN?? I was of the mistake opinion it was one of the oldest and most respected newspaper in USA.

Yes it is a bit silly when you have to have a foreigner explaining all the faults of your country and it’s dysfunctional system, but somebody have to do it. Ohh the hardship!!!

When it comes to knowledge of foreign countries I’ll say you are lacking a bit.
If you want to compare “Euroland” with USA and diversity of both, you need to look at a thousand year history of Europe and a couple of hundred for USA. Divers European nationalities, ethnicities and languages goes back a long time, while USA is a melting pot that has formed into one culture made up of many different people from all parts of the world.

In many parts of Europe there are now as much diversity of races and religions as in USA.
Even little cold and remote Norway have more foreign born residents then USA in % ( 14.8% vs. 12.9%)

This is contrary to what was stated in the US press recently, calling Norway a homogeneous and lilly white country. (It just goes to prove my point about knowledge of foreign countries, even by the US media)

EDIT: OOOps, I was quoting FORBES in that latest post one. That publication is maybe more believable to a right wing leading audience, though.

That’s correct, you were indeed mistaken.

Any publication that has become as blatantly biased and one sided as that one has is respected only in the most liberal, left wing, globalist circles. Therefore it makes sense why you would hold the Washington Post in high regard based on your constant parroting of that toxic agenda on various threads on this forum.

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Looks like USA is trying to export their problems across the border to Canada:


Build a wall!!!

Refreshing to hear you finally acknowledge that unchecked inflows of persons unknown from countries unknown all outside the bounds of the law is in fact a problem. I know that was tough for you…

As far as where that problem goes is not my concern. If Canada doesn’t like it, then they should pitch in on the southern wall.

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Yes everybody should stick to reading Breitbart and The Blaze and watching Fox News for unbiased news and world view. All those “Fake News” sources. like WP, NYT, CNN etc. and all foreign news should be banned.
Then Everybody would have a balanced view of the world and know what is good for them (I.e. for the US elite)

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That’s the key…I read 2 sites… Fox and CNN so I can get perspectives from both sides. I find that most times my personal views align more with Fox but that doesn’t make me stop reading the other. I haven’t seen an ounce of willingness on your part to consider the other side. It’s full bore left wing sounds bites for you and if anybody else has an opinion, then they’re racist, xenophobic, rednecks.

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