Life transition - how do I get a real taste of ocean shipping?


#1

I’m making a life transition. after 14 years of schooling and working in a career that never worked out. Never been on the ocean before, but was born literally across the street from it (Corpus Christi, TX, USA), and have always loved it, and wanted to go out in it. I’ve lived in a couple countries and lots of the US, and love travel, and have always wanted to see the whole planet. So I’m thinking of international shipping.<br>Before I go spend time and money at schools, I want to get a real taste for what it’s really like. How do i go about this? <br><br>I do not want anything to do with military, I don’t go for uniforms, or shaving everyday either. I do not know what positions that I might like to do, I would want to be able to experience a wide variety of jobs on-board to find that out, and just to be well-rounded. If after a couple of voyages I still like it then I would certainly get licensed, etc.<br>I am not nationalistic. I don’t care which country owns a boat, or what flag it flies, etc. I do care that I work with decent people, on decent boats, and most people speak at least passing English until I learn their language.<br>I have a BS in computer science plus a couple years of physics, and a few years science in general, so I’ve been generally absorbed in books and computers. I work hard and am honest and love to meet decent people from everywhere. I’ve also done general handy-work around the house (decks, bathroom), done some wood-working and construction, and work on my own truck. I can learn most anything.<br><br>I want to talk with people who have travelled to ports all over the world. To get some of your knowledge and experiences and ideas for how I could begin my taste. If anyone knows of other forums on the internet I would love to go to those also.<br><br>How does signing onto a ship work? How do you find ships with openings? What do I need, if anything, to know or be able to do, to sign on as unlicensed, unexperienced? How long do I get signed on for? Is it just until we get to the next port? Or is it until we return to the port I signed up from? Can I just get off at any port and spend a few days exploring then find any ship going someplace I want to go? And what is the pay and life like? I have a few small debts and bills in the US that I’d need to pay each month. <br>And if anyone could give me some understanding of how international shipping works in general with all the different countries involved, with different laws, and standards, and languages, and the unions and international organizations as well? (I just started reading wikipedia articles then found this site.)<br><br>thanks in advance<br>James


#2

Have a look at the thread called “Maritime Schools”. There are others as well that will get you some answers. Come back with more questions if you’re still interested in a life at sea.


#3

<blockquote><strong><font face=Arial,Helvetica>To prepare yourself for a Merchant Marine or Navy life, try this:<br><br>1. Sleep on the shelf in your closet.</font></strong>
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<P><strong><font face=Arial,Helvetica>30. On Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays turn your water temperature up to 200 degrees, then on Tuesday and Thursday turn it down to 10 degrees. On Saturdays and Sundays declare to your entire family that they used too much water during the week, so all showering is secured.</font></strong>
<P><strong><font face=Arial,Helvetica>31. Raise your bed to within 6 inches of the ceiling, if you don’t have a closet shelf.</font></strong>
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<P><strong><font face=Arial,Helvetica>33. Have your mother-in-law write down everything she’s going to do the following day, then have her make you stand in the back yard at 6 am and read it to you.</font></strong>
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<P><strong><font face=Arial,Helvetica>36. Make your family qualify to operate all the appliances in your home (i.e. Dishwasher operator, blender technician, etc.)</font></strong>
<P><strong><font face=Arial,Helvetica>37. Walk around your car for 4 hours checking the tire pressure every 15 minutes.</font></strong>
<P><strong><font face=Arial,Helvetica>38. Sit in your car and let it run for 4 hours before going anywhere. This is to ensure your engine is properly “lit off”.</font></strong>
<P><strong><font face=Arial,Helvetica>39. Empty all the garbage bins in your house, and sweep your driveway 3 times a day, whether they need it or not.</font></strong>
<P><strong><font face=Arial,Helvetica>40. Repaint your entire house once a month.</font></strong>
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<P><strong><font face=Arial,Helvetica>44. Sew back pockets to the front of your pants.</font></strong>
<P><strong><font face=Arial,Helvetica>45. Spend 2 weeks in the red-light districts of Europe, and call it “world travel.”</font></strong>
<P><strong><font face=Arial,Helvetica>46. Spend 5 years working at McDonalds, but do NOT get promoted.</font></strong>
<P><strong><font face=Arial,Helvetica>47. Needle gun the aluminum siding on your house after your neighbors have gone to bed.</font></strong></P></blockquote>


#4

I love the tongue and cheek description of sailing. Gave me lots of laughs. And I get that its not glamorous, and probably downright miserable sometimes. Which is one reason I want to go out on a voyage or 2 before going to some school. I need to know if I can take the bad with the good.<br><br>Looking at school is premature at this point, but I’m doing so to see if I can get something out of it.<br><br>What I really need right now…<br>How do i go about getting signed on to a ship? Where do I go to ask about unlicensed and unexperienced openings? I guess we don’t have cabin boys in the 21st century, but is there not someway that people can still start out completely new to it?<br>I can get to either New Orleans or Corpus Christi ports for now. Is there one single office that each port has that will list all the ships who need crew? Or do I have to go ask at each ship? Or are there a bunch of different organizations that each keep track of some? Or what? I figure that I’ll have to be close enough that i can get there whenever the ship in need is in port for its couple of hours or whatever.<br><br>And also… about “seeing the world”<br>Of course just being in port a couple of hours is not seeing the world. Don’t people leave ships at ports and get other ships? Is this not done anymore or what?<br><br>thanks again<br>James


#5

The only way to get a job on a ship or tug or a workoat is to go to school first. You just can’t jump aboard anymore. Times have changed. There are cargo ships that carry <a target="_blank" href=“http://thetravelersnotebook.com/how-to/how-to-travel-by-cargo-ship/]paying passengers, that would be one way to get a first-hand feel for being at sea. Also, <a title=“The Workboat Academy” target=”_blank" href="http://www.workboatacademy.com]here’s a website that does a good job of explaining how to get started in the maritime industry. It is PMI’s workboat academy site.


#6

I did the same thing from a career as a marine biologist, about 5 years ago. I’m about to sit for the 3rd mate’s exam, myself. <br><br><br> The schooling part that everyone talks about is no BS. You need to take a 1-week course called Basic Safety Training. It’s a lot of fun, although there’s some work involved. Do a google search to find a school in your area. costs about $800. <br><br> You’re going to need a merchant mariner’s document, or Z-card. Go to www.uscg.mil/stcw to get the application forms- the application, medical exam and drug test forms. <br><br> Getting set up for your first job is a pain in the butt because of the paperwork involved. It’s not actually difficult, but you need to do it in a timely fashion to not go crazy. Shoot me an email and I can help. <br>


#7

A friend at the academy was asked if he was planning on taking a shoreside or shipboard job upon graduation. He said “No way I’d enjoy sailing”.<br><br>The instructor replied “How do you know untill you’ve tried it”<br><br>My friend said, “You’re right and I’ll make you a deal. Tonight at 0400 I’ll wake up, open my dorm room window and stare at the waterfront for 4 hours… if I like it I’ll take a job at sea!”<br><br>Not too far from the truth… at least much of the time.