LCS Fort Worth Suffers Gear Damage in Singapore


#1

I don’t even know where to begin with this news…now they can’t even get away from a dock without falling apart!

These “ships” are utterly and completely worthless pieces of SHIT which are costing us taxpayers billions. Halsey’s ghost is wailing in agony!

[B]LCS Fort Worth Suffers Gear Damage in Singapore[/B]

By Reuters 2016-01-22 11:00:41

The USS Fort Worth, a new coastal warship built by Lockheed Martin for the U.S. Navy, suffered damage to its combining gears while the ship was in port in Singapore, the Navy said on Thursday, citing an apparent crew error.

The issue occurred during an operational test of the ship’s port and starboard main propulsion diesel engines on January 12 when a lack of lube oil triggered high temperature alarms on both sets of gears, according to a Navy official.

Technical experts and shipyard personnel were on board to evaluate the gears and make needed repairs, the Navy said in a statement released late Thursday. It was unclear when the repairs would be completed, it said in the statement.

Combining gears allow the Fort Worth to configure different types and combinations of engines for propulsion at sea. The ship left her homeport of San Diego in November 2014 and is now on a 16-month rotational deployment to the U.S. Seventh Fleet.

Lieutenant Commander Matt Knight, U.S. Pacific Fleet spokesman, said problems involving watchstanding procedures were rare since crews were well-trained and familiar with the ship, one of two models of the Navy’s Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) class.

“We have the right resources in place to conduct the necessary inspections, determine the extent of the damage and required repairs, and return Fort Worth back to operational status,” Knight said. “We are working diligently to minimize the operational impact of this maintenance casualty.”

The incident comes after a spate of issues involving the Navy’s newest class of warships, which were designed to carry out a range of missions, including hunting for mines, submarines and surface warfare.

The accident occurred just weeks after Defense Secretary Ash Carter told Navy Secretary Ray Mabus to truncate orders of the LCS class ships at 40, instead of ordering 52 ships as previously planned, a decision that Navy officials still hope to reverse.

may our new president whomever that may be make a simple statement after they take the oath of office which is NO MORE OF THESE!


#2

[QUOTE=c.captain;177655]I don’t even know where to begin with this news…now they can’t even get away from a dock without falling apart![/QUOTE]

“… problems involving watchstanding procedures were rare since crews were well-trained and familiar with the ship.”

Yeah, right. What a bunch of morons! It seems like that “well-trained and familiar” bunch of twits didn’t know how to read an oil pressure gauge or wonder what that funny alarm noise was … of course that assumes there was an oil pressure alarm even installed.

What is next with that bunch of defense industry welfare cases?


#3

Those boats are junk. God help their crews if they ever have to stand in harm’s way.


#4

[QUOTE=Steamer;177658]
What is next with that bunch of defense industry welfare cases?[/QUOTE]

A little more detail in this article. http://news.usni.org/2016/01/21/littoral-combat-ship-uss-fort-worth-sidelined-in-singapore-with-propulsion-system-damage#more-16609

Namely:
“Based on initial indications, the casualty occurred due to an apparent failure to follow procedures during an operational test of the port and starboard main propulsion diesel engines,” Lt. Cmdr. Matt Knight, a spokesman with U.S. Pacific Fleet, told USNI News.

And:
During startup of the main propulsion diesel engines, lube oil was not supplied to the ship’s combining gears,” according to the memo. Running the dry gears “resulted in high temperature alarms on the port and starboard combining gears.”


#5

So does the navy have to pay for this or the shipbuilder?


#6

[QUOTE=KPChief;177671]
“Based on initial indications, the casualty occurred due to an apparent failure to follow procedures …"[/quote]

Yeah, like the procedure of looking at an oil pressure gauge. Duh!

"During startup of the main propulsion diesel engines, lube oil was not supplied to the ship’s combining gears,” according to the memo. Running the dry gears “resulted in high temperature alarms on the port and starboard combining gears.”

So, no oil pressure and they never noticed a rapidly climbing temperature gauge until the alarm went off. Yes, I would agree that they did not follow any of the most fundamental procedures and practices of operating any piece of machinery.

It sounds to me like those people shouldn’t be allowed to operate their cars much less a complex and poorly designed and built piece of taxpayer funded garbage.


#7

[QUOTE=Colston1285;177672]So does the navy have to pay for this or the shipbuilder?[/QUOTE]

I’m not an Engineer but I’m fairly certain that the gear manufacturer would have specified; “Do not operate without ensuring that luboil level is within prescribed level. Use only (specification)”, or something to that effect?


#8

[QUOTE=Colston1285;177672]So does the navy have to pay for this or the shipbuilder?[/QUOTE]

the Navy or should I say, the taxpayer, but even if it was somehow the fault of the yard or the gear builder, you can rest assured that the Navee would foot the bill


#9

Not sure who’s aware, but the plant operator is operating everything digitally from a console, then generally they have one or two youngsters walking the engineering spaces as well. A parameter should not have been met to allow the start up of the MPDE on the console I would have imagined, but it still doesn’t excuse a simple reading of the instruments before lighting it off, or checking directly in the spaces. I don’t know the exact details. For what it’s worth, the Independence class has a much more reliable power plant in my opinion, having 2 MPDEs, and 2 GTME, each with a single shaft going strait to a steerable water jet. The Freedom variant however has 1 MPDE and 1 GTME going to a Combining gear, down one shaft, then to a Splitter Gear to two shafts leading to 2 water jets… same on port and stbd. Pictures of the RCO console can be found here. http://www.navair.navy.mil/nawctsd/programs/files/no5-lcs-rco-final.pdf


#10

I hear ISIL wants to have a Navy. http://maritime-executive.com/article/isis-wants-its-own-navy

Maybe we should give them the LCS ships. They would be easy to find, easy to vaporize and they certainly wouldn’t be a threat to anyone.

Why anyone would worry about those stone age cretins having a navy is beyond me. Put as many of them as possible on a ship - give them an old aircraft carrier they can fill with zealots - and take them all out at once … sure beats a bunch of grunts risking their lives looking for vermin under rocks in Bumfukistan and at least we might get something positive from Lockheed’s welfare payments.


#11

[QUOTE=Steamer;178210]I hear ISIL wants to have a Navy. http://maritime-executive.com/article/isis-wants-its-own-navy

Maybe we should give them the LCS ships. They would be easy to find, easy to vaporize and they certainly wouldn’t be a threat to anyone.

Why anyone would worry about those stone age cretins having a navy is beyond me. Put as many of them as possible on a ship - give them an old aircraft carrier they can fill with zealots - and take them all out at once … sure beats a bunch of grunts risking their lives looking for vermin under rocks in Bumfukistan and at least we might get something positive from Lockheed’s welfare payments.[/QUOTE]

Give them a new aircraft carrier ! Aircraft carriers are as outmoded as battleships and if it were’t for the trillions the government contractors make off of them they’d have been discontinued long ago. Who else in the world builds more than a token aircraft carrier or two any more? My God, the Chinese could pump out 20 in a couple of years if they wanted to, there is no magic technology involved.The LCS is another multi billion dollar gift from the US taxpayer to the defense contractors. Existing ships produced by the Russians, Swedish and Chinese produce the same or more firepower at a fraction of the cost. The F-35 is another trillion dollar theft. Why when people talk about the “deficit” do things of this nature never get brought up by the media? ISIS could probably hire Lockheed or HII to build them a navy ship, of course that just might bankrupt them.


#12

[QUOTE=tengineer1;178464]ISIS could probably hire Lockheed or HII to build them a navy ship …[/QUOTE]

And Lockheed would probably be happy to provide it, through a foreign subsidiary of course. Why shouldn’t they? Didn’t the prez tell us Muslims are peace loving people and Islam is a loving and gentle religion.


#13

[QUOTE=Steamer;178473]And Lockheed would probably be happy to provide it, through a foreign subsidiary of course. Why shouldn’t they? Didn’t the prez tell us Muslims are peace loving people and Islam is a loving and gentle religion.[/QUOTE]

Several presidents have said that about Muslims. Considering they’re the 2nd largest religion on earth they aren’t doing real bad in that respect. These ISIL, ISIS nut jobs have as much to do with being Muslim as the KKK does with Christianity. At the present time they want to kill each other and the other countries in the region seem to be fine with that as they are doing little to nothing to stop them. Now, if the USA and Russia would just get out of their way…but there is a lot of money to be made off continuous war.


#14

[QUOTE=tengineer1;178501]These ISIL, ISIS nut jobs have as much to do with being Muslim as the KKK does with Christianity. At the present time they want to kill each other and the other countries in the region seem to be fine with that as they are doing little to nothing to stop them.[/QUOTE]
I would read a few suwars before agreeing to that, if we hold the fact that the book is the backbone of any religion.

Now, if the USA and Russia would just get out of their way…but there is a lot of money to be made off continuous war

And a lot of tax payer expense.


#15

[QUOTE=Lone_Star;178570]I would read a few suwars before agreeing to that, if we hold the fact that the book is the backbone of any religion.[/QUOTE]
The Bible can hold its own with the Quran as far as violence, genocide, punishing non-believers, etc goes.
Even numbers are from Quran and odd from the Bible.

  1. Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the [holy man] who represents God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged.
  2. I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those, who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes.
  3. I will fill your mountains with the dead. Your hills, your valleys, and your streams will be filled with people slaughtered by the sword. I will make you desolate forever. Your cities will never be rebuilt. Then you will know that I am God.
  4. Fight them until there is no more [disbelief or worshipping of other gods] and worship is for God alone.
  5. Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother-in-law. And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.
  6. Whoso fighteth in the way of God, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.
  7. Make ready to slaughter [the infidel’s] sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants.
  8. [God’s messenger]… was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The [holy man] replied, “They [women and children] are from them [unbelievers].”
  9. Then I heard God say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children.”
  10. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
  11. Keep [my holiday], for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die.
  12. The punishment of those who wage war against God and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement.
  13. If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.
  14. It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land…
  15. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
  16. I shall terrorize the [heathens]. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them, because they oppose God and his apostle.
  17. A [holy man’s] daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.
  18. So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them.
  19. Everyone who would not seek God was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.
  20. And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction.
  21. But if [a girl wasn’t a virgin on her wedding night] and evidence of the girl’s virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her father’s house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against God’s people by her unchasteness in her father’s house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst.
  22. The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say, “O [believer]! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”
  23. If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you.
  24. God’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but God.”
  25. Cursed be he who does God’s work remissly, cursed he who holds back his sword from blood.
  26. God said, “A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. [Prophet], you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But God desires killing them to manifest the religion.”
  27. Anyone who blasphemes God’s name must be stoned to death by the whole community of [believers].
  28. When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) [your religion]; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them… If they refuse to accept [the faith], demand from them [a tax]. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek God’s help and fight them.
  29. Anyone else who goes too near the [Holy Place] will be executed.
  30. Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us.

#16

tenginer1, your point was that ISIS has nothing to do with being muslim, yet I said if they hold to their book, then they do. You verified my point. Also, last time I checked, Christians don’t consider themselves the Jewish nation these laws (Odd numbers, not even) were written to in the old testament. They have something called the new testament I believe, ISIL does not.


#17

Now, if the USA and Russia would just get out of their way…but there is a lot of money to be made off continuous war

And a lot of tax payer expense.

Of course it is at taxpayer expense. Surely no one believes the defense industry donates airplanes, rockets, guns, and bombs or shoes and helmets or body bags to the DoD because they feel patriotic. Geez … Some lobbyist, some congressman and his manager pocket a piece of every bullet and drop of fuel used, why should they even attempt to derail that gravy train?


#18

[QUOTE=Steamer;178608]Of course it is at taxpayer expense. Surely no one believes the defense industry donates airplanes, rockets, guns, and bombs or shoes and helmets or body bags to the DoD because they feel patriotic. Geez … Some lobbyist, some congressman and his manager pocket a piece of every bullet and drop of fuel used, why should they even attempt to derail that gravy train?[/QUOTE]

We have been warned of the fleecing of the US from Jefferson who saw the rise of corporate power in the early 19th century and said, “I hope we shall crush… in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”

Eisenhower who knew a thing or two about war said when he left office" Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well.This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence – economic, political, even spiritual – is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."

and it has all come to pass…

vote NO incumbent


#19

New details: Apparently the crew bypassed the RCO console and locally engaged the combining gears, without proper lube oil going through the system. This would explain why and how they were engaged without parameters being met through the system.


#20

[QUOTE=Lone_Star;178665]New details: Apparently the crew bypassed the RCO console and locally engaged the combining gears, without proper lube oil going through the system. This would explain why and how they were engaged without parameters being met through the system.[/QUOTE]

So they figured out a way to get around all the permissives. I hope there’s a public hanging.