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ORIGINAL POST
RECEIVED A THANK YOU FROM “SEADOG!”
FIRST REPLY: DeckApe: “…I hate political talking points spam.”
MY FIRST FOLLOW-UP POST
SECOND REPLY: richard8000milesaway: “nobody here is going to read your legalize sounding political diatribe that you posted.”
RICHARD8000MILESAWAY RECEIVED TWO THANK YOU’S FROM: captjoe & Jeffrox
THIRD REPLY: DeckApe: “I disliked the modern political name calling…”
SECOND FOLLOW-UP: Defending my factual information.
FOURTH REPLY: george44: “This is an excellent example of how to write like a well-educated, if not totally neurotic person… If your post looks like a webpage maybe it should be one…”
FIFTH REPLY: richard8000milesaway: (yawn. scratch nuts) . "what-ever floats your boat, bub. see ya. click to different screen. "
MY REBUTTAL TO GEORGE44: Reciprocating with the same degree of criticism as received.
SIXTH REPLY GEORGE44: [george44 digressing into childish behavior]: “ha, I didnt read your response! I stuffed my fingers in my ears and started humming! (They have meds for bi-polar by the way)”
MY REBUTTAL TO GEORGE44: "How very said it is that personal insults are the favored method of discussion on this forum. "
SEVENTH REPLY DECKAPE: [DeckApe picks up on my criticism of the Ad Hominem attacks and finally presents a respectable point-by-point critique.]
MY REBUTTAL TO DECKAPE: [I answer his critique with factual information proving my view on the merchant marine industry is correct.]
EIGHTH REPLY DECKAGE: [DeckApe takes offense to my closing remark, “I can provide more information if I had the time” {I was at a McDonald and the Midnight closing time was approaching}] His response: In that case I won’t waste any more of your time. Good shooting!
NINTH REPLY TREKLEADER: [Taking offense to my remark, “Have I stumbled into a den of idiots?”] His response: “Yes; Perhaps you should retreat back to Free Republic and WorldNetDaily with the rest of the PhD’s and Mensa members…” [So, now I am demonized for doing actual research and presenting factual information to support my “opinions”? Damned if present my own opinions with factual information and damned if I present factual information with my opinions. Now who is at fault here for that?]
MY REBUTTABLE TO TREKLEADER AND DECKAPE: [Hitting back with equal force of Ad Hominem attacks. Fight fire with fire.]
TENTH REPLY CAPPY208: [As with any start of a bar room dispute, there is always a neutral party to intervene in the attempt to avoid a bar room brawl. Cappy208 presented a neutralizing argument.
11TH REPLY DECKAPE: [DeckApe tries to draw Cappy208 to his side of the argument.] His reply: “Cappy, check his links! He’s a birther. All reasonable discourse ends there. He believes in a grand conspiracy. Your arguments only support his idea that you, too, are either a party to the conspiracy or a fool to it. This topic (force protection, anti-piracy, the arming of merchantmen) could be an interesting discussion. I had hoped it would be. His agenda drove off all reason. Maybe next time.” [NOTE the attempt to play the sympethy card with Cappy208. Classic psychological behavior of an instigating bully. Cause an incident then play the role of the innocent. Classic psychology 101.]
MY REBUTTAL TO EVERYONE: [I attempt to get the discussion back on factual grounds by posting my email message to the Chief of Staff for Arkansas U.S. Rep. Rick Crawford that included an excerpt from a brand new (July 16, 2011) U.S. Supreme Court opinion discussing Federalism to refute DeckApe calling me a “birther” advising DeckApe that the discussion is not about birthers, it is about Federalism, the rights of an individual to hold the Government accountable for wrongful acts.]
12th REPLY DECKAPE: [A FALSE ADMITTANCE OF UNDERSTANDING] His reply: "I think I finally understand! You want your MMD/MMC to be a firearms permit to be valid within the United States by virtue of merchant mariners’ participation in historical armed hostilities. USCG won’t put a national open carry handgun endorcement on your MMD/MMC and you feel they are violating your Second Amendment rights. You have spent nine years pushing for your rights while the courts, politicians and government officials don’t seem to care. We don’t care either. An MMD/MMC is a mariner’s document, not a gun permit. Get over it.
MY REBUTTAL TO DECKAPE: [Testing DeckApe on his actual intention to a honest discussion I take a turn away from the MMD/MMC to the TWIC Card].
13th REBUTTAL DECKAPE: [Halfway to common group but still inflicting insults.] His reply: "TWIC is a scam. We agree on that. You didn’t object to my interpretation of your quest so I guess I got it right. Have no doubt, I hope you are successful in getting a right to carry put on the MMD/MMCs. It would be nice not to have to get a separate weapons permit every five years. Good luck.
MY REBUTTAL TO DECKAPE: [Objecting to his presumption on the type of my quest advising DeckApe that he should read the links I provided to the Merchant Marine Act lof 1936, the federal law on arming U.S. merchant vessels, and the Preamble to the Constitution of the United States.]
14th REBUTTAL TREKLEADER: [Having done a Google search on my name he believes he has found dirt to throw at me. He found someplace where someone called my “Batshit insane.”] No doubt it is from another discussion forum where I advocated NATIONAL OPEN CARRY HANDGUN in intrastate and interstate travel. That subject has the the source of online riots against the idea of it coming into reality. This is an example of mass self-deception. For a reality check go to www.OpenCarry.org to see how many states are open carry states. See also HR 822 National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2011. If Congress is considering National Concealed Carry for handguns then what is stopping Congress from considering National Open Carry for handguns? Just Batshit insane people who want the Second Amendment repealed! I suggest that TREKLEADER is “Batshit insane” because he would rather dig up dirt and throw it at me instead of facing the reality of what the Constitution actually intended for us with the Bill of Rights. For instance, to preserve and protect National Open Carry Handgun as a basic fundamentual human right that existed when man kind was still walking on all fours or was created by God in his image, which ever view works for people.
15th REPLY DECKAPE: [Apparently DeckApe has a delusion of an honest U.S. Government and belief that corruption does not exist in the U.S. Government and that their must be some other explanation for the difficulty I have had in the federal courts for 9 years other than corrupt federal judges. What DeckApe does not know is that in the 9 years of federal litigation I have collected evidentiary proof of corruption of federal judges and members of federal law enforcement. It is easy for people to insult and criticize when they do not know all the facts of the subject they are criticizing.
CONCLUSION
What I find most disturbing about online discussion forums such as this one, is that the medium- to long-term members of these forums behave as if they can commit ad hominem attacks on newcomers in such a manner as to portray the newcomer has someone with a bad attitude with an intent to cause trouble. They do not know how to carry on a proper discussion of the facts at issue and because they are ignorant in how to argue with logic they must resort to personal attacks.
I do thorough research on the topics I present for discussion and a present actual facts to support my opinions and proposals for government action on the issues I present. But what happens more often than not is people like to gang up against the issues I present.
And reviewing this forum for the latest replies I see the natives are once again calling for me to be banned. I have caused another riot because you people do not want to see the reality of how Government is being run. You all have your own views of your world. And the proper interpretation of the Constitution and the Merchant Marine Act of 1936 threatens your view of the world around you. So what do you do? You gang up in an online riot with calls to ban me from this furom.
Like a pondered earlier… have I stumbled into a den of idiots?
I was banned by those forums because I was advocating NATIONAL OPEN CARRY HANDGUN. The idiots who stood in opposition to that idea at those forums wednt on an online rampage like you idiots are doing now. What are you afraid of by refusing to talk about NATIONAL OPEN CARRY FROM A U.S. MERCHANT SEAMAN’S POINT OF VIEW? You must be afraid of something because fear sparks anger which leads to attack mode. So, what you are people afraid of?
To the one who asked why am I still here: I thought I could salvage an honest discussion of the topics I presented. But I see that emotions have taken over and have caused you all to fly into an emotional rampage. I patients are now running the asylum. Maybe I should leave. Discussion forums are not the proper venue to discuss topics of purely legal nature.
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