In Case You Think Things are Bad Now


#41

[QUOTE=Fraqrat;189367]Nope the Constitution is just fine like it is. I wouldn’t expect you to understand. The only problem with it is…

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And the action the president took which is unconstitutional is…?


#42

[QUOTE=Lee Shore;189368]Yeah, that’s right, we gotta make sure the next president is an experienced community activist 'cause that’s been working out just great.[/QUOTE]

DAMN! This is exactly what this thread needs right here…gotta order one FedEx overnight!

//youtu.be/yt5kXFKhbIQ

I especially enjoyed the three pounds of RED Republican gummi bears being flushed down the ol’ shitter just like [B]“The Donald”[/B] is doing to your Party

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#43

Lookout: "Skipper! Political argument rising!“
Skipper” What bearing?!"
Lookout: "To the thread sir? None!"
Skipper: “That’s just what the bastards want us to think! Quartermaster! Sound Meme Battle Alert! Listen boys, they’re playing for keeps, so I don’t want to hear a peep of objectivity out of any of you! And don’t forget to limber up before stretching your points…”


#44

Let’s not get into this. The vetting of an election cycle, in theory, should choose the best candidate, Or at least the one we deserve. That’s the pros and cons of having a democratic republic.

If anything we need to do a better job ensuring we have a well educated and civilly engaged electorate. Changing the constitution won’t create that though. The best change we could make for both parties and for ourselves as voters would be to turn over “Citizens United” and get dark money and out of politics.


#45

[QUOTE=LI_Domer;189382]Let’s not get into this. The vetting of an election cycle, in theory, should choose the best candidate, Or at least the one we deserve. That’s the pros and cons of having a democratic republic.

If anything we need to do a better job ensuring we have a well educated and civilly engaged electorate. Changing the constitution won’t create that though. The best change we could make for both parties and for ourselves as voters would be to turn over “Citizens United” and get dark money and out of politics.[/QUOTE]

I agree that it should, but it may have helped to ensure that by setting some minimum requirements as to general knowledge and abilities, fiscal and monetary prudence, sobriety and honesty to qualify as a candidate.

To have a well educated and well informed electorate is a MUST for a true democracy to function, otherwise it is too easy to manipulate the result of any election.

Changing the Constitution to suite today’s reality would help. To have Delegates and Electors travelling for days to convey the will of the people in individual States is no longer necessary. The Electoral Collage system is unnecessary in today’s reality, when the result of popular voting is known nationwide as they are announced in individual States.
Doing away with this relic from a time long past would ensure that nobody can get elected President without receiving the majority of popular votes. Makes every vote count equally.

Black money is obviously the biggest problem, but also the easiest to legislate away, since it is NOT a Constitutional right, or obligation. Easy to say, impossible to do, unless the will of the people is behind such a change.


#46

[QUOTE=c.captain;189377]DAMN! This is exactly what this thread needs right here…gotta order one FedEx overnight![/QUOTE]

That’s the best you can do? Rehashing old childish flushing turd jokes? At the risk of disappointing you, I’m not a fan of either “party”. Are we to pretend that neither party candidate is seriously flawed and that it’s a crap shoot (accidental pun) as to which one will cause the least amount of irreparable harm to an already wounded electorate?


#47

Not a democratic republic at all. A representative republic and you may even say a representative democracy. Think you need to research countries that are “democratic republics”.


#48

[QUOTE=LI_Domer;189382]Let’s not get into this. The vetting of an election cycle, in theory, should choose the best candidate, Or at least the one we deserve. That’s the pros and cons of having a democratic republic.

If anything we need to do a better job ensuring we have a well educated and civilly engaged electorate. Changing the constitution won’t create that though. The best change we could make for both parties and for ourselves as voters would be to turn over “Citizens United” and get dark money and out of politics.[/QUOTE]

While I certainly agree that we do NEED a better educated electorate, there are problems ensuring that. . . back in the ugly Jim Crow days, there were reading comprehension tests at polling places to ensure just that. Thing is, the black population at the time was largely illiterate, due to the nature of slavery. . . can you even imagine the outcry now, if there was a civics test? Hell, even the notion of obtaining a photo ID (Needed to obtain any government service) is an outrage these days. . . .


#49

[QUOTE=Fraqrat;189365]No thanks our constitution is just fine.[/QUOTE]
Is that with all the amendments or as it was written originally?


#50

[QUOTE=powerabout;189438]Is that with all the amendments or as it was written originally?[/QUOTE]

In case somebody need help to remember what the amendments were about, here is a list to refresh your memory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amendments_to_the_United_States_Constitution
Believed, but not guaranteed to be correct. (It is a Wiki after all)


#51

I was gonna say with all amendments but it appears them damn atheist liberals removed the Ten Commandments and replaced em with something called a bill of rights. I never seen nothin bout that on Faux News figured they’d been all over that. Must be a Zionist conspiracy to remove Jesus from everything.


#52

[QUOTE=Fraqrat;189443]I was gonna say with all amendments but it appears them damn atheist liberals removed the Ten Commandments and replaced em with something called a bill of rights. I never seen nothin bout that on Faux News figured they’d been all over that. Must be a Zionist conspiracy to remove Jesus from everything.[/QUOTE]

Faux News would not care (or know about) anything that happened in 1791. (Aside for maybe the 2nd Amendment??)
If it hasn’t got anything to do with Benghazi, or may be enshrined in some certain e-mails, it cannot possibly be news worthy.


#53

If you think things were bad under the Neo-cons, wait to see what it will be like when the “Alt. Rights” take over power in Washington: http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21707201-how-donald-trump-ushered-hateful-fringe-movement-mainstream-pepe-and?spc=scode&spv=xm&ah=9d7f7ab945510a56fa6d37c30b6f1709

We foreigners can only hope and pray it will never happen. Only you Americans can do anything to stop it from happening.


#54

A post like this highlights your ignorance.


#55

[QUOTE=ombugge;190790]If you think things were bad under the Neo-cons, wait to see what it will be like when the “Alt. Rights” take over power in Washington

We foreigners can only hope and pray it will never happen. Only you Americans can do anything to stop it from happening.[/QUOTE]

HELL you foreigners are the only ones scared to death! if “The Demagogue” does somehow win, I am seriously thinking of taking the DAUNTLESS to Canada and ask for political asylum there.

btw, for those of you like myself who solemnly believe Keith Olbermann is “the voice” to declare the Emperor has no clothes should know that he has a webcast running now sponsored by GQ Magazine here: The Closer with Keith Olbermann


#56

[QUOTE=c.captain;190798]if “The Demagogue” does somehow win, I am seriously thinking of taking the DAUNTLESS to Canada and ask for political asylum there.[/QUOTE]

Be careful. You may need to hire armed guards to protect the Dauntless from being attacked by angry Canadian tree huggers as a US Navy vessel would clearly be perceived to be a symbol of rampant Yankee imperialist war mongering. Oh wait, I don’t think guards are allowed to be armed in Canada.


#57

But they will have some very polite, stern words with you!


#58

[QUOTE=LI_Domer;190801]But they will have some very polite, stern words with you![/QUOTE]

at which point I unleash a fusillade of hot lead with my quad 50’s

//youtu.be/cOgzCL6Rd1o

that’ll teach them Poutine eaters to utter “stern words” to me


#59

[QUOTE=lm1883;190796]A post like this highlights your ignorance.[/QUOTE]

Who are ignorant, me or The Economist??
Or do you disagree that foreigner cannot vote in US elections, only American citizens can?


#60
Both.  The economist is a globalist rag.

Edit- I used to subscribe to the economist and read it religiously. In the last 4 or five years it’s journalistic qualities have been eroded and it is simply like any other news organization with an agenda.