Crowley's San Juan run


#1

Hello,
Any one have any info (pros and cons) on this San Juan run by Crowley?
I ran a search but, that didn’t yield anything much.
Any help is greatly appreciated!

Thank you !


#2

Fires for a start


#3

Are you a fan of going out in just about anything, on a 30+yr old boat getting the shit kicked out of you ??? Seen them leave the Delaware when other big wire boats and ATB’s said no thank you.


#4

[QUOTE=usmariner;132531]Hello,
Any one have any info (pros and cons) on this San Juan run by Crowley?
I ran a search but, that didn’t yield anything much.
Any help is greatly appreciated!

Thank you ![/QUOTE]

Its great as long as you don’t mind the lowest pay in the industry.


#5

[QUOTE=tugsailor;132536]Its great as long as you don’t mind the lowest pay in the industry.[/QUOTE]

Alright…well, thanks for the input. They made a decent offer for Master…as far as MOT is concerned. I talked with a couple of guys that I know that used to work for them but, they were PACNORWEST and they were in the middle on Crowley. I thought that I would throw it out here and see what was said.
thanks again for the info.

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[QUOTE=BargeMonkey;132534]Are you a fan of going out in just about anything, on a 30+yr old boat getting the shit kicked out of you ??? Seen them leave the Delaware when other big wire boats and ATB’s said no thank you.[/QUOTE]

Crap…That wouldnt be new to me…lol…


#6

Decent offer??? Do you realize they do more paperwork then most atb’s there?? The $$ isn’t that great for getting the shit kicked out of you & not being able to lay for weather. The boats are loud, lack creature comforts & the only thing good is the ride of the boat. Oh & be prepared to micro managed by some KP school boys.


#7

If youve asked around and know what your getting into then go for it. Im getting ready to sit for my chief limited oceans and would rather go to walmart before taking a job on the puerto rico run.


#8

[QUOTE=usmariner;132531]Hello,
Any one have any info (pros and cons) on this San Juan run by Crowley?
I ran a search but, that didn’t yield anything much.
Any help is greatly appreciated!

Thank you ![/QUOTE]

I am surprised your search do not yield much, The Crowley run has been discussed 'Ad Nausea" (like that, a big “word” :rolleyes:)

Try, [U]Crowley Liner[/U] service, that is the part of Crowley that does the Jacksonville or Philiy to San Juan, That part of Crowley is different from the Lake Charles, or ATB units.

Ocean31


#9

I would stay away. Not to mention in a few years that run will be done by two ships they are building. You might find your self out of a job. Everything written on her about that run is fact.


#10

I remember being Weather Bound on the Delaware River during the “Storm of the Century” (The Perfect Storm was about this storm) anyway there were Tug and Barge Units anchored all over the place. It was interesting to see how the different companies sailed after the storm. Crowley sail about 24-36 hours after it passed, Bouchard sailed the day after Crowley. Maritrans and the rest of the rigs sailed a day after Bouchard.

Back when I was working down in Puerto Rico we would see the Crowley Rigs sailing in some real crazy weather. I later found out that a old shipmate was working on the PR to N.J. run about the same time, we spent a fair share of time laughing about how we would run and hide while Crowley would sail in just about any weather.


#11

[QUOTE=BargeMonkey;132552]If youve asked around and know what your getting into then go for it. Im getting ready to sit for my chief limited oceans and would rather go to walmart before taking a job on the puerto rico run.[/QUOTE]

Just looking for as many reports as I can get. Hence, the original post. Could you be a little more specific as to why you would rather work at Walmart than the San Juan run?
good luck on your test. Moving up from DDE?
Thanks in advance.


#12

It’s been covered…40+year old noisy uncomfy boats that are out in the ocean getting beat on for low pay and tons of paper work on a run that will soon disappear in a few years if that’s not enough for ya go for it!


#13

Thanks for your reply!

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Thanks guys for your replies.
You’ve been a great help! I think I will sit tight right where I am.

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[QUOTE=Ocean31;132559]I am surprised your search do not yield much, The Crowley run has been discussed 'Ad Nausea" (like that, a big “word” :rolleyes:)

Try, [U]Crowley Liner[/U] service, that is the part of Crowley that does the Jacksonville or Philiy to San Juan, That part of Crowley is different from the Lake Charles, or ATB units.

Ocean31[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the heads up on “Crowley Liner”! That was a huge help.


#14

My Info is only about 10 years out of date.

I was sitting in the lobby of the NY REC waiting for a bit… There were three KP graduates in the room waiting for their paperwork to be processed. They were (quite loudy) discussing their job prospects. (Like this was impressive) Two of them stated that they were waiting for the jobs from the ‘hall’, and were going to see what came. The third loudly stated that she was going to take the offer from Crowley, as they seemed to know how she could benefit them with her experience and license.

I remarked that she should pay attention to the weather on the route the Jax/Sju run operated under if she was under the assumption of how her experience would be used. Or if it was just that she had a license that was important.

This was met with blank stares. Yup. Another sheep being led to the slaughter.


#15

My advise is try and get on in lake Charles, or try the ATBs. I think they are always looking for “cargo mates”. I’m not sure how they do the recruiting for lake Charles, I asked and was told that they only had the pr run, and they did not hire for those spots. sounded like a load, but what are you going to do? I have meet more then a fair share of mariners that have worked that run, and they all say the same thing. Stay away.


#16

Be prepared to do all the boat handling. The talent pool is as shallow as a baby pool. Mates that can’t even handle the boat light much less swing around while the assist tugs hold it still & you don’t even have to mess with the winch. There’s a reason they’ve got a 2nm CPA on those boats cause the mates wouldn’t know what to do if a ship got to close.


#17

[QUOTE=Tugted;132625]Be prepared to do all the boat handling. The talent pool is as shallow as a baby pool. Mates that can’t even handle the boat light much less swing around while the assist tugs hold it still & you don’t even have to mess with the winch. There’s a reason they’ve got a 2nm CPA on those boats cause the mates wouldn’t know what to do if a ship got to close.[/QUOTE]

Gotta learn somewhere I guess…


#18

They don’t wanna learn. They watch.


#19

What’s the minimum license for Crowley’s offshore wire stuff? I know they want at least a 1600-ton oceans for their ATB’s but are the wire boats the same?


#20

The invader class are 500 ton boats, I know they look for 1600 with oceans for that crap ass job not sure of they take anything other then that.