Here is the challenge:
Find a CFR that specifically states US Flag vessel and licencing for requirements that would pertain to a 3rd A/E would NEED the OICEW except in the case of passenger vessels. I will tell you that there are none at all. The closest it comes is when “it is required on the minimum manning certificate” which of all the ships in this company is only on foreign flagged vessels.
It’s like a farse everyone says that you NEED to have OICEW as a 3rd but there are no regulations in general that say that, at all. for example everyone under the sun quotes:
46 CFR 15.1103
Again except the hell on earth that is passenger vessels only C/E, 1st A/E, RFPEW and Able Seafarer-Engine are listed. Not even a hint to any other engineering officers like in the case of passenger vessels where it says
… engineer officer, or any person holding a license, MMD, or MMC …
I am telling you it is weird, we are all being lied to seriously, there are many CFR’s that explain the requirements for OICEW and yet the only requirement that says you have to hold the enforcement that corresponds to the domestic lic of 3rd assistant or any assistant engineer is passenger vessels. 2nd Engineer Officer (1st Assistant Engineer) requires OICEW in order to get the STCW Endorsement of 2nd Engineer Officer.
At the minimum they could just say these types of vessels require a OICEW period but again that is not the case (for all the haters again except passenger vessels which for me don’t even count).
Seriously I have found out how much people love to argue on here and even more prove someone else wrong so look it up find anything that says this type of vessel or this license requires OICEW in any respects (again except for passenger vessels). I tell you its not there.