Another Military Sealift Command thread


#441

Oh man, that looks like low-energy hell.


#442

That looks like something out of the history book. Only in America!!


#443

Yeah, but at least MSC keeps the mariners in the pool on the payroll.


#444

It is a neutral and slightly positive spend on the agonizing wait for a ship assignment. The pool is not fun.


#445

Yes, and there’s a lot of people who do nothing but sit around in that pool for a career. Alot of guys gleefully gave me the low down skinny on how to do just that in Norfolk. MSC’s mode of operation breeds those who are content with being “wards of MSC”. But sure, everyone gets paid a little bit sitting around in their pool.


#446

I wasn’t defending MSC. I was responding to a post that said sitting in the pool looked bad. I’ve done it, it was bad.

Looking back I would say for me it was stressful waiting for a ship in the MSC pool. But waiting for a ship at the union hall was stressful too, on top of that I was going broke.

Deep-sea has a pool too, but they are on stand-by for free.


#447

“Wards of MSC” sometimes find themselves assigned to a ship. We had a kid, an OS, on a T-AOE ship with a big crew who never did a lick of work. After being assigned a specific task at muster, he would disappear and we could never find him. We called him “the shadow”.


How (not) to Deal With Crew Problems or Did you ever Sail with a guy name of Johnny McGurk
#448

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#450

I came off a little snarky towards you, but I didn’t mean to. That snark was directed straight at MSC - I got quite the education on how to “work the system”, and, while it was pretty smart, it didn’t set well with me. It was all a game of cat and mouse there, with “minders” watching over the crowd, who were constantly trying to get away with everything they could. I don’t have a high moral standard toward such things, but I just felt I could make more $$$ at home as a bar tender than sitting around the half way house there in Norfolk, and be much happier.


#453

You have every right to criticize the Norfolk Pool. But Norfolk runs quite a bit differently than San Diego. They have no accountability to each other.

If I were to do a Video about the East Coast pool, the theme would probably be from something produced by X Clan.

In fact, I’ll do just that if I ever find myself, unfortunately, stuck there again.


#454

I might have been a bit over-caffeinated when I replied.

I found MSC to be OK once I got on a ship.

I prefer to sail commercial / union but the best ship I sailed on in MSC ( theMercury) was better than the worse union deep-sea ship.


#455

Please do (but I don’t hope you ever get there again - I kept hearing the West Coast was the way to go!). It was a scene like the Walking Dead. It was one of the most depressing periods of my life - yuk.


#456

Well, I’m a bit of a spoiled brat having spent most of my career in offshore drilling - so what do I know? But jeez, I never saw anything so antiquated and it was going to be months until I got on a ship somewhere (which is not what they told me would happen). I took my chances elsewhere and don’t regret it since things are working out now.


#457

Damn, that’s just waste of human resources. Why not just have a calling list?


#459

The official answer I got to a similar question was that since we are on the government dime we have to be doing something during the day… even if that something entails getting on a bus to the pool M-F.

Edit I shouldn’t call that an official answer. You can ask 3 people the same question and get 3 different answers. It’s not consistent.