Another Military Sealift Command thread


#301

You also earn shore leave while onboard a ship. That bumps up the paid time you get off.


#302

Is shore leave different from that 30-day period in between cruises?


#303

Shore leave is just another form of paid leave that other federal workers don’t get. There are several types of leave (annual, shore, sick, comp, award, more I’m sure) but basically they do the same thing - when you’re not working you still get paid.


#304

[QUOTE=DeckApe;163118]Shore leave is just another form of paid leave that other federal workers don’t get. There are several types of leave (annual, shore, sick, comp, award, more I’m sure) but basically they do the same thing - when you’re not working you still get paid.[/QUOTE]

But does that 30-day period in between cruises fall into one of those categories?


#305

I never applied for AB. I applied for the OS gig about six months back. I asked to be reconsidered for the AB billet and was told that it wasn’t possible at this time. If the OS job was offered to me then, i may have taken it. Since then my employment circumstances have changed for the better. MSC sounds like a good place to work if you are single, just starting out, or looking to put some time in towards quick advancement. As for the time in the pool I don’t believe it counts as leave. They put you up in a hotel until they can get you out on another ship.


#306

[QUOTE=TheShipCantSink;163124]But does that 30-day period in between cruises fall into one of those categories?[/QUOTE]

You can take a combination of whatever you have on the books- shore leave, annual leave, comp time, whatever (except sick leave- you are supposed to save that for when you’re sick (or hungover)

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[QUOTE=the little engineer;163030]Hello, my name is [B]John Doe[/B]; and am an applicant for Military Sealift Command. I have been selected and awaiting my Medical Screening and Physical, also my Drug Screening to be cleared. The Medical Screening was done on the 15th of this month, and the Drug Test and Physical were done on the 20th of this month. I have now been awaiting my exams to be cleared for 7 days. I have some questions concerning the drug screening first. First, on one of the blood tests at the Medical Screening; my results came back positive for Sickle Cell, so is that something that MSC will require me to get further testing for? Now, usually I would think that it would be something disqualifying; but the doctor said because of some of the other results on my tests that its highly unlikely that I have Sickle Cell. He said that my blood count was way to high for me to have Sickle Cell.

Another Question is, what is the range that they will turn you down; or “not fit for hire” in all of the other categories? Mainly the Diabetes/Blood Glucose Test? Next I would like to ask, when is the next NEO classes? If my stuff has been progressing as so:

-Submitted my application at the end of February
-MSC received my application in early March
-My info was forwarded on some days after
-And put under review at the Employment Division on March 10
-I was selected April 17th in which I had my call detailing my interview and my interview the week before both evens were on Friday of the subsequent week
-My EQIP cleared and I was scheduled for my Medical Screening on May 15th
-And then I did my Medical Physical and Drug Test on the same day at 2 different facilities on May 20th
-Also, I submitted my proof of residency for S&Q; also my Brown Passport Application some days after.

How long in the current day of the hiring process at MSC should it take from now or since May 20th to get deemed “Fit for hire” or “Not fit for hire?”

I know that the ships have an internet at MSC, especially the modern ones; so even though you more than likely don’t have a WiFi that you can browse the internet on, can you hook up other things that use the internet to their internet?

Thank you:D[/QUOTE]

Man, don’t use your real name here on the open forum, especially with personal medical information that is nobody’s business but yours.

Now go scrub your original post like a good little engineer.


#307

[QUOTE=swab;163138]I never applied for AB. I applied for the OS gig about six months back. I asked to be reconsidered for the AB billet and was told that it wasn’t possible at this time. If the OS job was offered to me then, i may have taken it. Since then my employment circumstances have changed for the better. MSC sounds like a good place to work if you are single, just starting out, or looking to put some time in towards quick advancement. As for the time in the pool I don’t believe it counts as leave. They put you up in a hotel until they can get you out on another ship.[/QUOTE]

So you don’t even have an option to go home and stay there until its time to go back to another ship?

And where do you work now?


#308

That’s what it sounded like when I spoke with them on the phone. I believe the young woman’s name was Karen. She was pleasant, and spent around fifteen or twenty minutes speaking with me. The situation she described is in my above post. It sounded like you are always working unless you request leave. She said they pay your base pay while in the pool, and if you live within fifty miles you can stay at your own place. If not then they put you up in a hotel with a per diem for food. I’m working for an outfit in alaska, full time year round. For what it’s worth I decked for a tour boat in my teens, the captain worked for msc. He lasted about two years, claimed he always had plenty of ot and made about 60k a year. His main gripes were the time away from his family, and traveling to places that as he put it “you don’t really want to go”. I know he earned a bunch of time towards his 3rd mate. Last I heard he was on the lakes somewhere.


#309

[QUOTE=swab;163181]That’s what it sounded like when I spoke with them on the phone. I believe the young woman’s name was Karen. She was pleasant, and spent around fifteen or twenty minutes speaking with me. The situation she described is in my above post. It sounded like you are always working unless you request leave. She said they pay your base pay while in the pool, and if you live within fifty miles you can stay at your own place. If not then they put you up in a hotel with a per diem for food. I’m working for an outfit in alaska, full time year round. For what it’s worth I decked for a tour boat in my teens, the captain worked for msc. He lasted about two years, claimed he always had plenty of ot and made about 60k a year. His main gripes were the time away from his family, and traveling to places that as he put it “you don’t really want to go”. I know he earned a bunch of time towards his 3rd mate. Last I heard he was on the lakes somewhere.[/QUOTE]

What if you’re willing to go home and back to your ship on your own dime? And how long do you have to work before you qualify for retirement? 15 years?


#310

Good Morning!

Regarding the relief situation in MSC still not improved as of this time. Because most of the crew-especially the ratings are overdue for a month before they could get the relief.

[QUOTE=TheShipCantSink;162845]Question - has the relief situation in MSC improved at all? If not, what exactly is the source of the issue here? I can’t imagine it being a matter of lacking CIVMARs.

I’m planning on re-applying to MSC next year, this time for the AB position.[/QUOTE]


#311

[QUOTE=josesastre82;163226]Good Morning!

Regarding the relief situation in MSC still not improved as of this time. Because most of the crew-especially the ratings are overdue for a month before they could get the relief.[/QUOTE]

I’m assuming that’s with the 60-day advance notice?

Oh well. Sea time is sea time!


#312

[QUOTE=TheShipCantSink;163183]What if you’re willing to go home and back to your ship on your own dime? And how long do you have to work before you qualify for retirement? 15 years?[/QUOTE]

Only if you quit can you do that.


#313

[QUOTE=catherder;163244]Only if you quit can you do that.[/QUOTE]

Well, I guess that’s the price you pay for federal benefits and a job for life!


#314

[QUOTE=TheShipCantSink;163248]Well, I guess that’s the price you pay for federal benefits and a job for life![/QUOTE]

Yeah, people are always trolling MSC forums talking about other companies; and their supposed superiority over MSC. The funny thing is not one of those companies and their ‘high pay’ and wages compare to the whole package you get at MSC. I bet MSC would pay insane pay over any company if you were working constant hazard pay as on an OSV or drill ship, not to mention good luck getting on one of those ships without a high level of experience in the maritime industry; or some really big endorsements under your belt. And prepare also on those ships to work a guaranteed atleast 12 hours on those ships, whereas on an MSC ship 8 hours is the guarantee that you HAVE to work; so you may work for 8 months out of the year or more, but only work 8 hours a day without weekends unless you want. Lets not even get into benefits, and the fact that you really never have to own a home or car once you work for MSC; everything is payed.

I couldn’t have said it better myself TheShipCantSink.:wink:


#315

[QUOTE=the little engineer;163294]Yeah, people are always trolling MSC forums talking about other companies; and their supposed superiority over MSC. The funny thing is not one of those companies and their ‘high pay’ and wages compare to the whole package you get at MSC. I bet MSC would pay insane pay over any company if you were working constant hazard pay as on an OSV or drill ship, not to mention good luck getting on one of those ships without a high level of experience in the maritime industry; or some really big endorsements under your belt. And prepare also on those ships to work a guaranteed atleast 12 hours on those ships, whereas on an MSC ship 8 hours is the guarantee that you HAVE to work; so you may work for 8 months out of the year or more, but only work 8 hours a day without weekends unless you want. Lets not even get into benefits, and the fact that you really never have to own a home or car once you work for MSC; everything is payed.

I couldn’t have said it better myself TheShipCantSink.;)[/QUOTE]

MSC is my destiny…

What do you mean that you never really have to own a home? Are you talking about how they constantly put you up in a hotel and pay for your rental car?


#316

[QUOTE=TheShipCantSink;163248]Well, I guess that’s the price you pay for federal benefits and a job for life![/QUOTE]

You have a rather naive understanding of how federal employment works. A job for life can be ended by a “Reduction in Force.”

I sure hope you aren’t adding sugar to all that Kool-aid you’re drinking lest you end up with diabetes.


#317

[QUOTE=catherder;163493]You have a rather naive understanding of how federal employment works. A job for life can be ended by a “Reduction in Force.”

I sure hope you aren’t adding sugar to all that Kool-aid you’re drinking lest you end up with diabetes.[/QUOTE]

So what’s the alternative?


#318

[QUOTE=TheShipCantSink;163495]So what’s the alternative?[/QUOTE]

You do realize that there are two other federal agencies that employ mariners?


#319

I know of NOAA. What’s the other one?


#320

MSC, NOAA, Navy, Coast Guard, Army… who else?