Ais, ATB and confusion... again


#1

It seems uncle Sams confused group is at it again. The new AIS designator for ATB’s is now category 57 with Tow 56 without Tow.
It’s a specifically push tugs. Dual-mode ATBs are not considered ITB’s under category 80 and they’re not considered normal tugs in the low 50s category.


#2

I’ve seen a lot of ATB’s say “Screw it!” and list themselves as a tanker.


#3

[QUOTE=PaddyWest2012;184464]I’ve seen a lot of ATB’s say “Screw it!” and list themselves as a tanker.[/QUOTE]

That’s a lot easier for foreign Ship officers to understand what they’re dealing with as far as size and such than hoping they know what an ATB is.


#4

[QUOTE=PaddyWest2012;184464]I’ve seen a lot of ATB’s say “Screw it!” and list themselves as a tanker.[/QUOTE]

That is the issue, the CG is saying they will start cracking down on vessels who don’t list the correct vessel type identifier, and update destination and eta info.

It isn’t about what you ‘want’ to identify as, but what your vessel is classed as. But (as far as I know) the cg has changed this designation for ATBs 3 times in the last three years. What’s new is the type and them wanting to get users to update info on every voyage.


#5

What difference does it make by complying ? Beyond making the CG happy. Can’t think of ever really caring about what type another vessel is.


#6

I’ll have to dig up the info but IIRC there’s a fine involved for non compliance. They’re trying to get all the brown water fleet complying. It’s often seen a tug with both destination and ETA months old displaying. But before they get to writing up tickets one would assume they’d at least get the regs down first!


#7

yes, we got some hatemail from headquarters about this a few times, but now they seem serious. Also entering destinations using the proper code


#8

[QUOTE=z-drive;184469]What difference does it make by complying ? Beyond making the CG happy. Can’t think of ever really caring about what type another vessel is.[/QUOTE]

Nice to know, some time. If it is a Cattle Carrier you would want to stay upwind of her.


#9

[QUOTE=cappy208;184467]It isn’t about what you ‘want’ to identify as, but what your vessel is classed as. [/QUOTE]

Wait, I thought the government’s new position was that what you “want” to identify as is protected by the constitution and the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
Hasn’t Homeland Security gotten the memo?
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